Simulation of non-Hermitian quantum mechanics

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The discussion centers on the implications of a research paper regarding non-Hermitian quantum mechanics (NHQM) and its simulation using a quantum computer. Participants explore questions related to superluminal communication and the applicability of quantum no-go theorems within the context of NHQM systems. The conversation touches on theoretical and experimental aspects of quantum mechanics.

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Main Points Raised

  • James M Essig questions whether the findings of the NHQM experiment allow for superluminal communication or if classical signals are still necessary for communication between qubits.
  • He also inquires about the relevance of quantum no-go theorems in the context of the NHQM systems discussed in the paper.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the legitimacy of the paper, suggesting it may contain extravagant claims or could be a prank.
  • Another participant argues that the paper is a serious publication and clarifies that the apparent violations of entanglement monotonicity are only observed in a specific postselected subspace.
  • It is noted that the dynamics of the system, when considering the full eight-dimensional space, behave as expected, and local operations do not create genuine entanglement.
  • One participant highlights that the experimental setup involves discarding certain data, which affects the interpretation of the results, emphasizing the need to distinguish between post-selected and non-post-selected dynamics.
  • Responses indicate that while some no-go theorems apply, others do not, depending on the interpretation of the data used in the experiment.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of skepticism and support regarding the paper's claims. There is no consensus on whether the findings enable superluminal communication or how no-go theorems apply in this context. The discussion remains unresolved with competing views on the legitimacy and implications of the research.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of the paper's formalism and the potential for misunderstanding due to the nature of postselected dynamics versus the full system dynamics. There are unresolved questions about the implications of the findings and the interpretations of the experimental results.

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I have some questions on recently reported simulations of non-Hermitian quantum mechanics using a quantum computer goes beyond centuries old conventions.
I noticed the research on NHQM in the following news release.
New physics rules tested on quantum computer
Published: 19.2.2021

Information for relevant paper is provided as follows.

Quantum simulation of parity–time symmetry breaking with a superconducting quantum processor
Communications Physics volume 4, Article number: 26 (2021)


Simulation of non-Hermitian quantum mechanics using a quantum computer goes beyond centuries old conventions.

I had two questions regarding this research.

Do the findings of this experiment enable superluminal communication or is a classical signal still required communicate the state of the first qubit to the observer of the second qubit?

Do the no-go theorems of quantum mechanics apply in the NHQM systems studied in the subject experiment?

Note that I am a free-lance researcher working on concepts for relativistic space travel and my field involves classical physics more than quantum mechanics. I have taken two quantum physics courses at the local university I obtained my Bachelor Of Science Degree in Physics but am not well versed in latest research in quantum mechanics.

I would be extremely grateful if you could provide a response to my questions.

Most Respectfully,

James M Essig
BS Physics
George Mason University
Fairfax Virginia, USA.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
1st of April?
 
Could be the joke was on me. Thanks for your reply to my questions.
 
Still cannot tell is the above paper and report is a practical joke or what. The paper has a lot of what it appears to be formalism that makes extravagant claims. Not being well verse in advanced quantum mechanics, I do not know what to say. It almost sounds too good to be true. If anyone can check out the paper and tell me what they think, I would appreciate that. It could very well be that the paper was a prank.

Thanks, Jim.
 
It looks like a serious publication in Communications Physics. I'm not an expert in this field. So I cannot so easily judge it from just glancing over it though.
 
James Essig said:
Still cannot tell is the above paper and report is a practical joke or what. The paper has a lot of what it appears to be formalism that makes extravagant claims.

The paper is legit, but it does not really make extravagant claims. They even clearly say that these violations of entanglement monotonicity are apparent only. They also clearly state that
"The unitary ##U_{a,q,q′}##, which induces a local non-Hermitian drive of qubit ##q## in the post-selected subspace of the ancilla, is in fact a nonlocal operation on the system qubit ##q## and the ancilla ##a##."

This paper is about open systems - systems interacting with an external environment or bath.
One has three qubits. One may now investigate the full system. For the full system, the authors say (in the supplement, note 3):

"However, in the complete eight dimensional space of system qubits and ancilla, these three-qubits undergo a unitary dynamics and entanglement does not vary under local operations."

In the main paper, they also say:
"The violation of entanglement monotonicity occurs in one postselected subspace."

In a very rough, loose and simplified description, what these guys say is: If you have a system of three entangled qubits, declare two of them as your system of interest and the third as some external environment you ignore or do not know, this partial system consisting of the two qubits may look as if local operations may create entanglement - which, however, is only a consequence of not looking at the full system. The full system behaves as expected and the "local" operation is not really local as explained above by the authors.
 
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If you look at figure 3, you can see where the "magic" is. They're discarding runs where the ancilla qubit is true, and analyzing the leftover data as if they weren't doing that. The result is postselected dynamics that aren't unitary.

Note that e.g. P_111 is not present in the readout column:

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> Do the findings of this experiment enable superluminal communication [...]?

No. When you actually run the experiment there is a "keep or discard" signal that has to eventually propagate to all qubits (or to all measurement results from those qubits).

> Do the no-go theorems of quantum mechanics apply in the NHQM systems studied in the subject experiment?

If you're talking about the postselected dynamics implied by interpreting the kept data as if it was all the data, then some apply and some don't. For example, no-cloning will still hold but no-signalling won't. That being said, I want to re-emphasize that the theorems still hold when you consider all of the data and that you need to be very careful not to confuse yourself by mixing up the post-selected dynamics with the non-post-selected dynamics.
 

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