Single Photon States: Definition & Real-Life Applications

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The discussion revolves around the definition and real-life applications of single photon states within the context of quantum field theory (QFT) and quantum optics. Participants explore the theoretical underpinnings of single photon states, their preparation methods, and the implications of these states in practical laboratory settings.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants define a photon in QFT as an irreducible representation of the Poincaré group, classified by helicity when mass is zero.
  • Others argue that true one-photon states can be prepared in labs using methods like parametric downconversion, leading to heralded photon sources.
  • A participant notes that while heralded photon sources are effectively one-photon states, they still contain contributions from higher number states, making them idealizations.
  • Some participants reference theorems in QFT that state exact eigenstates of the photon number operator cannot be prepared, only approximated.
  • There is a discussion about the implications of finite spectral width on the definition of single photon states, with some asserting that a finite spectral width implies multiple frequencies.
  • Participants debate the usefulness of distinguishing between "single photon" states and those that are "almost" single photon states, particularly in the context of preparation methods.
  • Mathematical distinctions are made regarding states formed by applying creation operators to the vacuum state, with implications for detection outcomes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of single photon states, particularly regarding their preparation and the implications of finite spectral width. There is no consensus on the definitions and distinctions being debated, indicating ongoing disagreement.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge limitations in the preparation of photon states, including dependence on experimental conditions and the inherent uncertainties in quantum mechanics. The discussion highlights the complexity of defining single photon states in practical and theoretical contexts.

  • #31
But what are you making of the above constructed normalizable state which is an eigenstate of eigenvalue 1 of the photon-number operator? I don't think that it contradicts in any way the Reeh-Schlieder theorem, and of course it can't, because it's free-field theory, which is well-defined. I think the Reeh-Schlieder theorem simply doesn't apply here, because it's precisely not a state that describes a "localized photon". I think it's just the mathematical rigorous version of the old gedanken experiment by Rosen and Bohr about the impossibility to localize relativistic quanta: Trying to confine even massive particles you rather create new particle-antiparticle pairs than localizing the single particle to a small volume. That's the more true for photons, which as massless spin-1 quanta don't even admit a position observable.

Also what then do you think are the "single photons" used by Clauser in the above quoted historical experiment or the "heralded single photons" in modern preparations using parametric down conversion, all of which clearly show the "single-photon features" like antibunching in the HOM experiment, etc?
 
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vanhees71 said:
I don't think that it contradicts in any way the Reeh-Schlieder theorem, and of course it can't, because it's free-field theory, which is well-defined. I think the Reeh-Schlieder theorem simply doesn't apply here, because it's precisely not a state that describes a "localized photon"
I agree.

That state is a perfectly valid Fock state, but no realistic preparation procedure in a finite volume can prepare it, i.e. it's an "idealization".

Just to be clear to others. Single photon states definitely exist mathematically as valid states, it's just that no preparation procedure in a finite volume can prepare them.

One can take the idealized limit where the preparation device is infinitely large and then these states can be prepared, but of course this isn't a real procedure. And of course in the actual de Sitter cosmology of real life this limit can't be taken, so we must also be using the idealization of Minkowski space.

vanhees71 said:
I think it's just the mathematical rigorous version of the old gedanken experiment by Rosen and Bohr about the impossibility to localize relativistic quanta: Trying to confine even massive particles you rather create new particle-antiparticle pairs than localizing the single particle to a small volume. That's the more true for photons, which as massless spin-1 quanta don't even admit a position observable
Correct. And I just want to say, that Bohr-Rosen work is a phenomenal paper. I don't know if you've ever seen Freeman Dyson's thoughts on how it relates to gravity. Interesting food for thought.

Regardless yes, the Reeh-Schlieder theorem is nothing but a "rigorous" version of that work.

vanhees71 said:
Also what then do you think are the "single photons" used by Clauser in the above quoted historical experiment or the "heralded single photons" in modern preparations using parametric down conversion, all of which clearly show the "single-photon features" like antibunching in the HOM experiment, etc?
States arbitrarily close to single photon states, so that they effectively are single photon states FAPP. My point is of course complete pedantry that would have me kicked out of an actual lab :biggrin:
 
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  • #33
This I fully agree with. For me the best heuristic introduction to relavistic QFT I've seen yet is in S. Coleman's Lectures:

S. Coleman, Lectures of Sidney Coleman on Quantum Field
Theory, World Scientific Publishing Co. Pte. Ltd., Hackensack
(2018), https://doi.org/10.1142/9371
 
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