So the question could be: How do I reexpress equations with P as the subject?

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The discussion revolves around the process of reexpressing equations with P as the subject. Participants are exploring the steps involved in transforming given equations into a different form, specifically focusing on linear equations. The context includes both theoretical understanding and practical application in solving equations.

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  • One participant seeks clarification on how to reexpress equations, providing specific examples of equations and their reexpressed forms.
  • Another participant questions the terminology "reexpress" and suggests that "rewrite" or "equivalent equations" might be more appropriate terms.
  • A participant mentions that the reexpressing terminology is derived from a textbook and relates it to a practical application involving demand curves and tax rates.
  • One participant provides a detailed step-by-step explanation of how to isolate P in the equation Q = 12 - 2P, demonstrating the algebraic manipulation involved.

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Participants express differing views on the terminology used for the process of changing the subject of an equation. While some focus on the steps of algebraic manipulation, others question the necessity of the term "reexpress." The discussion remains unresolved regarding the preferred terminology and the clarity of the steps involved.

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Some participants note that the equations discussed are simple linear equations and suggest that there may be examples in textbooks that illustrate solving for one variable in terms of another. There is also a mention of the potential for confusion regarding the terminology used in the context of the discussion.

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I am solving equations for a problem where we must reexpress the equation. I have been given the reexpressed equations, but simply cannot see the steps to quickly change the expression.

The expressions are below

1. Q = 12-2P.. it is reexpressed as P = 6-Q/2
2. Q = 18-P... it is reexpressed as P = 18-Q
3. Q = 8-p/3...it is reexpressed as P = 24-3Q

Can anyone tell me the steps to get from the initial equations to the new expressions?

Thanks
 
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swoodward said:
I am solving equations for a problem where we must reexpress the equation.
We normally say "rewrite". I don't think I've ever seen anyone use "reexpress".

When you solve an equation for one variable, you get a new equation.
swoodward said:
I have been given the reexpressed equations, but simply cannot see the steps to quickly change the [STRIKE]expression[/STRIKE] equation.

The [STRIKE]expressions[/STRIKE] equations are below

1. Q = 12-2P.. it is reexpressed as P = 6-Q/2
2. Q = 18-P... it is reexpressed as P = 18-Q
3. Q = 8-p/3...it is reexpressed as P = 24-3Q

Can anyone tell me the steps to get from the initial equations to the new [STRIKE]expressions[/STRIKE] equations?

These are very simple linear equations. Your book must have some examples of solving a linear equation for one variable in terms of another.
 
After thinking about this "reexpressing" equations terminology, is this terminology used by your instructor or in the textbook? I don't see the point of it in light of the fact that there already is some perfectly good terminology -- equivalent equations.

In your first example, Q = 12 - 2P and P = 6 - Q/2 are equivalent equations. Any pair of numbers (P, Q) that satisfies the first equation also satisfies the second equation.
 
This was from a textbook.

We needed to reexpress a demand curve for individuals to attempt to set a new tax rate for each individual.

I was just more or less trying to find another example of how those equations were rewritten(reexpressed) so I could understand all the steps in the text examples
 
Ok well for the first we have

Q = 12 - 2P

and we want to make the variable P the subject (which means have it in the form P = ...)

So the first thing we do is take away 12 from both sides,

Q - 12 = 12 - 2P - 12

and notice that on the right side the 12's cancel, so we can simplify that into

Q - 12 = -2P

Now, we have -2 times P, and we want just P, so we can divide by -2 to give

(Q-12)/(-2) = -2P/(-2)

And the right side is now obviously just P. But what we want to do is simplify the left side of the equation.

Well, to do this we have a basic rule of fractions which is

[tex]\frac{a+b}{c}=\frac{a}{c}+\frac{b}{c}[/tex]

so what we end up with is

Q/(-2) -12/(-2) = P

And since -12/-2 = 12/2 = 6 and Q/-2 = -Q/2 we have

6 - Q/2 = P

We can also switch each side of the equality without a problem, so our final answer is

P = 6 - Q/2
 

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