Soap Bubble Coalescence: Shape and Volume Change

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The discussion revolves around the coalescence of two soap bubbles with different radii, specifically questioning whether the resulting bubble will maintain a spherical shape and if there will be a change in volume during this process, assuming constant temperature.

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  • Participants explore the shape of the newly formed bubble, suggesting that it should be spherical due to the properties of gas molecules and surface tension. There are inquiries about the relationship between pressure and volume in the context of the combined bubbles, with some participants discussing the implications of surface tension on pressure changes.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing their thoughts on the relationship between surface tension, pressure, and volume. Some guidance has been offered regarding the mathematical relationships involved, but there is no explicit consensus on the outcomes or interpretations of the problem.

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Participants are considering the assumptions of constant temperature and the conservation of mass within the bubbles, as well as the negligible thickness of the soap film in their reasoning.

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Sir,
When two soap bubbles of different radii coalesce, will the newly formed
bubble be spherical in shape? Also will there be a change in volume due to this process?Assume that temperature is constant.
 
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Amith2006 said:
Sir,
When two soap bubbles of different radii coalesce, will the newly formed
bubble be spherical in shape? Also will there be a change in volume due to this process?Assume that temperature is constant.
If the two volumes of air within the bubbles combine into an undivided volume surrounded by a soap membrane, then I would say that the bubble has to be spherical (since there is no preferred direction of motion of the molecules in the gas and since the soap bubble assumes the shape which has the smallest area - a sphere).

The volume question is a bit tricky. Since they are at the same temperature, the question is really: how do the pressures of the two separate bubbles compare to the pressure in the combined bubble?

I am not sure but here is my take on it: The pressure inside the bubble is a function of the surface tension of the bubble and the temperature. If temperature is constant, the higher the surface tension, the higher the pressure within the bubble. So if the two bubbles combine to form one bubble, the surface area of the combined bubble is smaller, meaning the membrane is thicker so the soap molecules are not stretched as much as before. Therefore, the surface tension is less than before and the pressure is less, so the volume increases.

AM
 
thats a great thought problem, and good answer A Mason, what class/book is that from Amith?
 
Andrew Mason said:
I am not sure but here is my take on it: The pressure inside the bubble is a function of the surface tension of the bubble and the temperature. If temperature is constant, the higher the surface tension, the higher the pressure within the bubble. So if the two bubbles combine to form one bubble, the surface area of the combined bubble is smaller, meaning the membrane is thicker so the soap molecules are not stretched as much as before. Therefore, the surface tension is less than before and the pressure is less, so the volume increases.

AM

Andrew, I think that the pressure inside a soap bubble can be written as a function of the Surface Tension and the radius of the bubble.

A soap bubble has some definite (but very small) thickness and therefore has two layers, one towards the outside air and one towards the enclosed air, and between these layers is the soap solution.

So if the pressure of the air outside is P_{atm} and the pressure in the soap solution between these layers is P_1 and the pressure of the enclosed air is P_2

P_1 - P_{atm} = \frac{2S}{R}
where R is the radius of the soap bubble and S is the surface tension of the solution. I'm assuming the thickness of the soap bubble is negligible to the radius. So, again,

P_2- P_1 = \frac{2S}{R}

Adding,
P_2 - P_{atm} = \frac{4S}{R}.

And the pressure inside is greater than the pressure outside by an amount

\frac{4S}{R}

Also, for the OP's question, my assumption would be the mass of the air inside the two smaller soap bubbles will be conserved, and so the volume of the new, larger bubble will be the sum of the volumes of the two smaller bubbles. Since the radii of the smaller bubbles are known, the radius of the larger one can be found, and from this the pressure inside the new bubble can also be found.

What do you reckon?
 
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