Solve 3-Variable Equation with Real Solutions | √(z-y^2-6x-26)+x^2+6y+z-8=0

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The discussion revolves around finding real solutions for the equation ##\sqrt{z-y^2-6x-26}+x^2+6y+z-8=0##. The focus is on different approaches to manipulate the equation, including strategies for handling the square root term.

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  • One participant suggests moving terms around to eliminate the square root for simplification.
  • Another participant argues that it is actually better to retain the square root in the equation.
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Participants express differing opinions on whether to eliminate or retain the square root, indicating a lack of consensus on the best approach to solving the equation.

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Find the real solutions for ##\sqrt{z-y^2-6x-26}+x^2+6y+z-8=0##.
 
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One way to go about it is by moving some terms around to get rid of the square root.
 
It's actually better to keep the square root.
 
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anemone said:
Find the real solutions for ##\sqrt{z-y^2-6x-26}+x^2+6y+z-8=0##.
Here is my solution;

Given $$\sqrt{z-y^2-6x-26}+x^2+6y+z-8=0$$ we can write
$$z = 8 - x^2 -6y - \sqrt{z-y^2-6x-26}$$

we see that for real solutions $$z-y^2-6x-26 \ge 0$$ or $$z \ge y^2+6x+26$$

thus $$z = 8 - x^2 -6y - \sqrt{z-y^2-6x-26} \ge y^2+6x+26$$ or

$$- \sqrt{z-y^2-6x-26} \ge y^2+6x+26 +x^2 + 6y -8$$ the RHS can be condensed to

$$x^2 + y^2 + 6(x+y) +18 = 0$$ which can be written as

$$(x+3)^2 + (y+3)^2 =0$$ finally giving

$$- \sqrt{z-y^2-6x-26} \ge (x+3)^2 + (y+3)^2$$

This has only one real root ##(x,y)= (-3,-3)## when the LHS is zero then solving for ##z## gives ##z=17##
so ##(x,y,z) →(-3,-3,17)##
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