Solve Absolute Value Equation |x^2 - 2x| = |x^2 + 6x|

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The discussion revolves around solving the absolute value equation |x^2 - 2x| = |x^2 + 6x|. Participants explore various approaches to find the solutions, including the implications of absolute values and potential extensions to higher powers.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that x = 0 is a solution and proposes dividing both sides by |x|.
  • Another participant reiterates the steps leading to the conclusion that x = 0 is the only solution, emphasizing the importance of maintaining the absolute value.
  • A different participant points out that the equation |a| = |b| implies a = ±b, leading to the case x - 2 = -(x + 6), resulting in x = -2 as an additional solution.
  • Participants discuss the geometric interpretation of the problem, noting that the solutions correspond to points equidistant from 2 and -6 on the real line.
  • Some participants raise the question of how the problem would change if higher powers were involved, suggesting that expansion would be necessary.
  • One participant notes that while |x|^3 = |x| · x^2, it does not eliminate the absolute value bars effectively.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the solutions, as some participants argue for x = 0 as the sole solution while others identify x = -2 as an additional solution. The discussion on higher powers also introduces further complexity without a clear resolution.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the implications of removing absolute values and the necessity of evaluating multiple cases. The discussion on higher powers remains unresolved, with differing opinions on how to approach the problem.

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Solve the absolute value equation.

|x^2 - 2x| = |x^2 + 6x|

Seeking the first step.
 
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$x = 0$ is one solution.
Now divide both sides by $|x|$.

Next, write the resulting equation as $|x - 2| = |x - (-6)|$.
Then you seek those $x$ which have equal distance to the points $2$ and $-6$ on the real line.
 
|x^2 - 2x| = |x^2 + 6x|

|x(x - 2)| = |x(x + 6)|

|x||x - 2| = |x||x+6|

[|x||x - 2|]/|x| = [|x||x+6|]/|x|

|x-2| = |x+6|

x - 2 = x + 6

The only solution is x = 0.
 
RTCNTC said:
|x^2 - 2x| = |x^2 + 6x|

|x(x - 2)| = |x(x + 6)|

|x||x - 2| = |x||x+6|

[|x||x - 2|]/|x| = [|x||x+6|]/|x|

|x-2| = |x+6|

x - 2 = x + 6

The only solution is x = 0.

You can't just remove the absolute value as if they have no meaning. If we have:

$$|a|=|b|$$

Then, this implies:

$$a=\pm b$$

And so, you have another case to evaluate:

$$x-2=-(x+6)$$

$$2x=-4$$

$$x=-2$$

Let's examine the hint given by Janssens:

"Then you seek those \(x\) which have equal distance to the points 2 and −6 on the real line."

This would be the mid-point or mean of the two stated values:

$$x=\frac{-6+2}{2}=-2$$

And so, we conclude that the original problem has two solutions, given by:

$$x\in\{-2,0\}$$
 
What if the same question involves higher powers?

Example:

|x^2 - 2x|^3 = |x^2 + 6x|^3
 
RTCNTC said:
What if the same question involves higher powers?

Example:

|x^2 - 2x|^3 = |x^2 + 6x|^3
IF they have that as a given then you have to expand it out. But for the record [math]|x|^3 = |x| \cdot x^2[/math]. It won't help you to get rid of the absolute value bars.

-Dan
 
topsquark said:
IF they have that as a given then you have to expand it out. But for the record [math]|x|^3 = |x| \cdot x^2[/math]. It won't help you to get rid of the absolute value bars.

-Dan
I will post a few more if needed.
 

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