Solve Circular Motion: Speed of Point P & Ratio of Lift to Weight

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The discussion revolves around two problems related to circular motion: the speed of a point on a tire of a car and the ratio of lift to weight for an aircraft flying in a horizontal circle. Participants are exploring the mechanics of rotational motion and forces acting on objects in circular paths.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to relate the speed of point P on the tire to the speed of the car, questioning why the answer differs from their calculation. Some participants clarify that point P is at the top of the tire, leading to a discussion about the velocities involved. For the aircraft question, one participant suggests considering centripetal force and its relationship to lift and weight, while questioning the need for additional information such as the angle.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problems, providing insights into the mechanics of circular motion. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the speed of point P, with some participants clarifying the concept of tangential velocity. The discussion on the aircraft's lift and weight ratio is still developing, with suggestions for considering centripetal force but lacking a definitive resolution.

Contextual Notes

The original poster notes missing information, such as the angle for the aircraft problem, which may affect the calculations. There is also an emphasis on understanding the relationship between different velocities in the tire problem.

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1. The speed of a car traveling on a straight horizantal road is v. What is the speed of point P on the tyre of the car?

I consider the distance traveled by the car per revolution is same as the circumference of the tyre, while speed of point P, is equals to circumference divided by the time taken. If that so, the speed of the point P = v.
But the answer given is 2v. What method should I use to determine speed of the point P?

2. An aircraft is flying in a horizantal circle of radius 80km at a constant speed of 300ms-1. What is the ratio of the lift on the aircraft to its weight?

The angle is not given here. How should I calculate the lift?
 
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I think point p is a point at the "top" of the tire.
The velocity of the center of the tire is v.
The tangential velocity of the rim of the tire is v.
Hence v+v=2v.
On the other hand, the point which the the tire contact with ground has velocity 0, since the the tangential velocity of the rim is opposite to translate velocity. So v-v=0
 
:smile: Yeah, the point P is located at the top of the tyre. It is in the diagram given but unfortunately i can't show it. I thought the speed at the point P is the tangential velocity, no wonder I can't find the correct answer.

Thanks for curing my headache:smile: .
 
hey for the second part of the question, I would have thought you would have to consider the centripetal force and resolve it with respect to the lift and the weight

Due to the fact that you are now dealing with ratios the masses should cancel.

Centripetal force=mv^2/r

I think this is correct

correct me if I am wrong
 

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