Solve Drag Force Problem: Find Time to Reach 2% of Orig. Speed

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The discussion centers on solving a drag force problem involving a diver entering water at a speed of 6.5 m/s with a mass of 65 kg, facing a drag force defined as F_D=cv=(-1.2*10^4 kg/s)*v. The initial attempts incorrectly assumed constant acceleration, leading to erroneous calculations for the time to reach 2% of the original speed. The correct approach involves recognizing that acceleration is not constant due to the changing velocity and applying the equation F_{net}=cv-mg to derive the time using integration techniques.

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Homework Statement


You dive straight down into a pool of water. You hit the water with a speed of 6.5 m/s, and your mass is 65 kg.

Assuming a drag force of the form F_D=cv=(-1.2*10^4 \tfrac{kg}{s})*v, how long does it take you to reach 2% of your original speed? (Ignore any effects of buoyancy.)


Homework Equations


ma=F_D-mg
v(t)=v_0+at


The Attempt at a Solution


ma=F_D-mg
a=\frac{F_D}{m}-g
a=\frac{(-1.2*10^4)*-6.5}{65}-9.8=1190.2

v(t)=v_0+at
-6.5*.02=-6.5+1190.2t
t=5.4*10^{-3}

Logically, the answer does not make sense, nor is it correct. Where did I go wrong?
 
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You have assumed acceleration is constant. In your equation, a = \frac{cv}{m} - g

And then you used constant acceleration formulae. However, think about what happens as v changes.
 
Rake-MC said:
You have assumed acceleration is constant. In your equation, a = \frac{cv}{m} - g

And then you used constant acceleration formulae. However, think about what happens as v changes.

Ah, yes. As velocity decreases, the acceleration does as well. This is problematic for me, however, as I have not worked with non-constant accelerations. How should I go about solving this problem?
 
Try this:
solve for Fnet first, before acceleration.
 
If you mean:
F_{net}=cv-mg

I can solve for it, but do I use 6.5 as my value for v? I still don't know what to do with the resulting value? Doesn't that still have the same problem of assuming constant acceleration?
 
well think about this:

F = m \frac{v}{t}so m \frac{v_s}{t} = cv - mg

where v_s is the one which is at 2%
re arrange to get t.

I hope I didn't make any careless mistakes I was up all night
 
F_{net}=cv-mg=(-1.2*10^4)(-6.5)-65(9.8)=77363

F_{net}=m\tfrac{v_s}{t}
77363=65(\tfrac{0.13}{t}
t=1.09*10^{-4}

This is also an incorrect answer =/
 
Shameless bump - still haven't resolved this question :(
 
You have to use partial derivatives.

FD-mg = ma
cv-mg = m dv/dt
cv/m-g=dv/dt
integral(dt)|0,t = (dv/ (cv/m)-g)
 
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Ahh catamara is totally right, we were on the right track though
 

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