MHB Solve Dxdy Word Problem: Height of Bulb at $(1.25, 0)$

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To determine the height of the bulb at point (1.25, 0), the discussion focuses on using geometry and the properties of circles. The equation of the circle is established as x² + y² = 1, and the relationship between the height h and the coordinates is explored through similar triangles. A key step involves finding the tangent line to the circle, leading to the equation that requires the discriminant to be zero for tangency. After calculations, it is concluded that the height h must be 13/3. The discussion effectively combines geometric principles with algebraic manipulation to solve the problem.
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how high h must the bulb in the figure be if point $(1.25,0)$
is right on the edge of the illuminated region.
${x}^{2}+{y}^{2}=1$

$y' = -x/y$

$\frac{-h}{13/4}=\frac{-y}{5/4-x}=-\frac{x}{y}$

hopefully if the is setup ok what is next?
 
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The equation for the circle is incorrect.
 
I copied the figure wrong so OP has pic from book
 
This can be solved using geometry. Let $O$ be the origin, $C$ be the point of tangency of the sloped line and the circle, and let $A$ have coordinates $(1.25,0)$. Then the right triangle $OCA$ is similar to the large right triangle with side $h$. From there $h$ can be found.

What do you mean by dxdy in the thread title?
 
$-y^2 = -5/4 x + x^2$
$5/4 x = x^2 + y^2 = 1$
$x = 4/5$
$y = 3/5$
$y-3/5 = -4/3 (x-4/5)$
$4x+3 y=5$
When $x=-2$ Then $y=h=13/3$
 
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I would likely work this as follows:

The equation of the line is given by:

$$y=\frac{h-0}{-2-\frac{5}{4}}\left(x-\frac{5}{4}\right)=-\frac{h}{13}(4x-5)$$

Now, plug this into the equation of the circle:

$$x^2+\left(-\frac{h}{13}(4x-5)\right)^2=1$$

$$169x^2+h^2\left(16x^2-40x+25\right)=169$$

$$\left(16h^2+169\right)x^2-40h^2x+\left(25h^2-169\right)=0$$

Require the discriminant to be zero since the line and circle are tangent:

$$\left(-40h^2\right)^2-4\left(16h^2+169\right)\left(25h^2-169\right)=0$$

This reduces to:

$$(3h-13)(3h+13)=0$$

Discarding the negative root, we are left with:

$$h=\frac{13}{3}$$
 
Well that was very helpful.

It was hard to see how to use the circle in this.
 
We can use still another general fact that a tangent to a circle $x^2+y^2=r^2$ at point $(x_0,y_0)$ is
\[
xx_0+yy_0=r^2.\qquad(*)
\]
(More generally, the tangent to $(x-x_c)^2+(y-y_c)^2=r^2$ at point $(x_0,y_0)$ is $(x-x_c)(x_0-x_c)+(y-y_c)(y_0-y_c)=r^2$.) Substituting $x=5/4$ and $y=0$ into (*) we find $x_0=4/5$ and from $x^2+y^2=1$ it follows that $y_0=3/5$. Thus, the tangent equation is $\frac{4}{5}x+\frac{3}{5}y=1$, from where $y=13/3$ when $x=-2$.
 

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