Solve for the covariance in the bivariate Poisson distribution

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around solving for the covariance in the context of the bivariate Poisson distribution. Participants explore the implications of correlation and covariance within this statistical framework, with a focus on the conditions under which these relationships hold.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • George presents the bivariate Poisson distribution and asks for a solution to find the parameter θst.
  • George expresses urgency in determining whether the problem is solvable and requests clarification or additional information.
  • Some participants question the existence of a solution, noting that if the variables are correlated, the correlation could take on various values within certain bounds.
  • George reformulates the question to inquire about the bounds for correlation based on the bivariate Poisson distribution, suggesting that understanding covariance is a precursor to this inquiry.
  • One participant states that the absolute value of covariance is generally bounded by the square root of the product of the variances.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether a solution exists for the covariance or the bounds of correlation, indicating multiple competing views and unresolved questions.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential limitations in understanding the relationship between covariance and correlation in the context of the bivariate Poisson distribution, particularly regarding the assumptions and definitions involved.

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Dear All,

The bivariate Poisson distribution is as follows,
[tex] \[ f(y_{s},y_{t})=e^{-(\theta_{s} + \theta_{t}+\theta_{st})}\frac{\theta_{s}^{y_{s}}}{y_{s}!}\frac{\theta_{t}^{y_{t}}}{y_{t}!}<br /> \sum_{k=0}^{min(y_{s},y_{t})} \binom{y_{s}}{k} \binom{y_{t}}{k} k!\left(\frac{\theta_{st}}{\theta_{s} \theta_{t}}\right)^k.\][/tex]

Given that [tex]f(y_{s},y_{t}) >= 0[/tex], solve for [tex]\theta_{st}[/tex].

Many thanks in advance,

George
 
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Can someone please advise or give a comment or ask for more information if my question is not clear? I urgently/desperately need to know if this is solveable and how?

Many thanks in advance,

George
 
I am not familiar with the equation, but I wonder if there is a "solution". If the variables are correlated, the correlation (within bounds) is anything.
 
mathman said:
I am not familiar with the equation, but I wonder if there is a "solution". If the variables are correlated, the correlation (within bounds) is anything.

Right mathman (and of course to everyone else),

I am actually interested in finding what the bounds would be for the correlation but then [I thought] I first need to solve for the covariance. So, the reformed question is:

What are the bounds (maximum and minimum) for the correlation based on this bivariate Poisson Distribution?

George
 
In general, the absolute value of a covariance is bounded by the square root of the product of the variances.
 

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