Solve Friction Problem: Find Acceleration of M | N1/N2 Normal Forces

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving friction and forces acting on two blocks, M and m. The original poster seeks to determine the acceleration of block M and the normal forces N1 and N2. The problem involves analyzing the forces in both horizontal and vertical directions.

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  • Participants discuss the equations of motion for both blocks, questioning the correctness of the equations and the signs of the forces involved. There is an exploration of the roles of tension (T), gravitational force (Mg), and normal forces (N1, N2) in the system.

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There is ongoing clarification regarding the equations, particularly the vertical forces acting on block M. Participants are actively revising their equations based on feedback and are questioning the signs of the forces. Multiple interpretations of the forces and their directions are being explored.

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Participants are addressing potential errors in their equations and the assumptions regarding the direction of forces. The complexity of the system, including the role of the pulley and the interactions between the blocks, is acknowledged but not resolved.

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Find acceleration of M.
N1 is normal force between the two blocks and N2 is that between the ground and M.

Let M move with acceleration 'a' towards right and so,m moves with acceleration '2a' downward and 'a' to the right.
Here are my equations:
For M,
2T-N1n1-N2=Ma(horizontal)

and
Mg-T-N2n2=0(vertical)

For m,
mg-T-N2n2=m(2a)

and
N2=ma
Are all these correct?
I am not getting the correct answer.

Thank You.
 
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Hello,

Check your second equation - vetical for M.
you have missed N_1. and are the signs for N_2n_2 and T alright?
 
Hi.
Oh yes how dumb of me.
So the correct ones are:

For M,
2T-N1n1-N2=Ma(horizontal)

and
Mg-T+N2n2-N1=0(vertical)

For m,
mg-T-N2n2=m(2a)

and
N2=ma
Are all these correct now?
 
Still, in the 2nd eqn, T is in the direction of Mg. So, its got to have a +ve sign.
 
Actually i am little muddled up with the vertical eq.
T pulls the big block M right?Mg brings it down.Why +ve signs for both then?
What are the vertical forces on M?
Mg,N1,friction between the two blocks right?
Where does the T come from anyway?
I don't know why I put T.
 
they pulley on the top-right of the big block, experiences T towards the right & towards the bottom.
 
Oh and pulley is attached to M.That was clearer.
So finally,For M,
2T-N1n1-N2=Ma(horizontal)

and
Mg-T+N2n2-N1=0(vertical)

For m,
mg+T-N2n2=m(2a)and
N2=ma
Correct?
 
Still not :-p
T should have a +ve sign (2nd eqn).
Mg, T and N_2n_2 point downwards while N_{1} points upwards.
 
Oh I'm sorry graphene,I understood but didn't put it carefully.

For M,
2T-N1n1-N2=Ma(horizontal)

and
Mg+T+N2n2-N1=0(vertical)

For m,
mg-T-N2n2=m(2a)


and
N2=ma
 

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