Solve Op-amp Basic Problem: Output to Input Ratio

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The discussion focuses on calculating the output to input ratio for an operational amplifier (op-amp) circuit using Kirchhoff's Current Law (KCL) and Kirchhoff's Voltage Law (KVL). The user identifies that no current flows into the inverting terminal of the op-amp, allowing for the application of KCL and KVL to derive current relationships. The main challenge lies in relating these currents to the output voltage, which remains unresolved. The user seeks assistance in deriving an expression for the output voltage based on the feedback loop analysis.

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Homework Statement


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All resistances are "R".

Find the output to input ratio for this Op-amp

Homework Equations


KCL, KVL, Voltage divider.

The Attempt at a Solution



I know no current flows into the Op amp through the inverting terminal so all the current flows into the feedback loop.

I know i can then use KVL and KCL to work out the current equivalencies such as:
KVL around the first loop in the feedbackloop:
(i1*R)-(i2*R) = 0
therefore: i1=i2.

KCL at the frst node in the Feedback loop gives:
i1+i2 = i3.

around the second node gives:
i3+i4 = i5.

KVL around the final loop in the feedback loop gives:
(i4*R) + (i5*R) = 0

But my main problem is trying to relate all this to the output voltage which i can't seem to get an expression for.

Please help
 
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Learnphysics said:

Homework Statement


[PLAIN]http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/2389/opamp.png

Uploaded with ImageShack.us

All resistances are "R".

Find the output to input ratio for this Op-amp


Homework Equations


KCL, KVL, Voltage divider.

The Attempt at a Solution



I know no current flows into the Op amp through the inverting terminal so all the current flows into the feedback loop.

I know i can then use KVL and KCL to work out the current equivalencies such as:
KVL around the first loop in the feedbackloop:
(i1*R)-(i2*R) = 0
therefore: i1=i2.

KCL at the frst node in the Feedback loop gives:
i1+i2 = i3.

around the second node gives:
i3+i4 = i5.

KVL around the final loop in the feedback loop gives:
(i4*R) + (i5*R) = 0

But my main problem is trying to relate all this to the output voltage which i can't seem to get an expression for.

Please help

I would use the KCL equatinos for this problem -- they are more intuitive for me. Can you try it with KCL? What is the voltage at the "-" input terminal of the opamp?
 
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