Solve Polynomial Equation z^6-2z^3+2=0

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The discussion revolves around solving the polynomial equation $$z^6-2z^3+2=0$$. Participants explore methods to find all six roots, including substitutions and the use of polar form, as well as de Moivre's theorem.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests substituting $$z^3=t$$ to simplify the equation to $$t^2-2t+2=0$$, leading to roots $$t_1=1+i$$ and $$t_2=1-i$$.
  • Another participant agrees that using polar form is a good next step to find the six roots.
  • There is a proposal to express $$t^3$$ in polar form as $$\sqrt{2}e^{i \frac{\pi}{4}}$$ to solve for the roots.
  • Some participants mention using Euler's formula and de Moivre's theorem to find the roots, suggesting that $$t^3$$ can be expressed with angles adjusted by multiples of $$2\pi$$.
  • One participant expresses confusion about obtaining six roots, noting that they only find $$2^{1/6}e^{\pm\frac{\pi}{12}i}$$.
  • Another participant points out an omission of $$i$$ in the exponent and clarifies that three roots should be derived from each value of $$t^3$$.
  • Further discussion includes a participant seeking clarification on the values of $$k$$ and $$\theta$$ in the context of the roots.
  • A later reply provides a detailed explanation of how to derive the roots from the cubic equations, emphasizing the spacing of the roots around a circle.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the method of using polar form and de Moivre's theorem, but there is some confusion regarding the correct number of roots and the handling of the angles. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact steps to consistently derive all six roots.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the application of de Moivre's theorem and the derivation of angles, indicating potential gaps in understanding the mathematical steps involved.

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Hello MHB,
Find all roots to $$z^6-2z^3+2=0$$
I can se we there will be 6 roots.
I start with subsitute $$z^3=t$$ so we got
$$t^2-2t+2=0$$ and we get $$t_1=1+i$$ and $$t_2=1-i$$
what shall I do next? Shall I go to polar form?
Regards,
 
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Yes, that would be a good way to continue and find your six roots.
 
MarkFL said:
Yes, that would be a good way to continue and find your six roots.
in that t I get $$\sqrt{2}e^{i \frac{\pi}{4}}$$ so I shall solve $$t^3=\sqrt{2}e^{i \frac{\pi}{4}}$$
 
Yes, in fact you could use:

$$t^3=\sqrt{2}e^{\pm\frac{\pi}{4}i}$$

to get all six roots.
 
MarkFL said:
Yes, in fact you could use:

$$t^3=\sqrt{2}e^{\pm\frac{\pi}{4}i}$$

to get all six roots.
I still don't get six roots, I get $$2^{1/6}e^{\pm\frac{\pi}{12}i}$$ but that is not six roots.
 
If it were me, I would use Euler's formula to express $t^3$ in trigonometric form, then use de Moivre's theorem to get all six roots.

Or equivalently write:

$$t^3=\sqrt{2}e^{\pm\left(\frac{\pi}{4}+2k\pi \right)i}$$

Then let $$k\in\{-1,0,1\}$$ to get $$\theta\in[-\pi,\pi]$$
 
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MarkFL said:
If it were me, I would use Euler's formula to express $t^3$ in trigonometric form, then use de Moivre's theorem to get all six roots.
Is this correct?
$$2^{1/6}e^{\pm\frac{\pi}{12}+ \frac{k2\pi}{12}}$$ $$k=0,1,2,3,4,5$$
 
Petrus said:
Is this correct?
$$2^{1/6}e^{\pm\frac{\pi}{12}+ \frac{k2\pi}{12}}$$ $$k=0,1,2,3,4,5$$

No, you have omitted $i$ from the exponent, and you want to get 3 roots from both values of $t^3$ not 6 roots from one value.

Please note I have added to my previous post on how to do this.
 
MarkFL said:
No, you have omitted $i$ from the exponent, and you want to get 3 roots from both values of $t^3$ not 6 roots from one value.

Please note I have added to my previous post on how to do this.
Hello Mark,
I don't understand that one cause I can't find it on my book. The only one I could find is de moivres sats so we can write $$t=2^{1/6}e^{\pm( \frac{\pi}{12}+ \frac{k2\pi}{12})i}$$ $$k=0,1,2,3,4,5$$, I am pretty much clueless right now...

Regards,
 
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I start to understand what you do but now where you get your k and $$\theta$$
 
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Petrus said:
Hello MHB,
Find all roots to $$z^6-2z^3+2=0$$
I can se we there will be 6 roots.
I start with subsitute $$z^3=t$$ so we got
$$t^2-2t+2=0$$ and we get $$t_1=1+i$$ and $$t_2=1-i$$
what shall I do next? Shall I go to polar form?
Regards,

It's always easiest to remember that there are as many solutions (at least in one rotation of a circle) to any complex polynomial as the degree of the polynomial, and they are all evenly spaced around a circle, so they all have the same magnitude and are separated by the same angle. So your sixth-degree polynomial has six solutions, and you have reduced it down to two cubics, each which will have three solutions.

For your first cubic, you have

[math]\displaystyle \begin{align*} z^3 &= 1 + i \\ z^3 &= \sqrt{2}\,e^{\frac{\pi}{4}\,i} \\ z &= \left( \sqrt{2} \, e^{\frac{\pi}{4}\,i} \right) ^{\frac{1}{3}} \\ z &= \sqrt[6]{2} \, e^{\frac{\pi}{12}\,i} \end{align*}[/math]

And now remembering that all three solutions have the same magnitude and are evenly spaced about a circle, they will be separated by an angle of [math]\displaystyle \begin{align*} \frac{2\pi}{3} \end{align*}[/math], and so the solutions are

[math]\displaystyle \begin{align*} z_1 &= \sqrt[6]{2} \, e^{\frac{\pi}{12}\,i} \\ \\ z_2 &= \sqrt[6]{2}\, e^{\frac{3\pi}{4}\,i} \\ \\ z_3 &= \sqrt[6]{2}\, e^{-\frac{7\pi}{12}\,i} \end{align*}[/math]Follow a similar process to find the solutions to [math]\displaystyle \begin{align*} z^3 = 1 - i \end{align*}[/math] :)
 
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Hello,
Now I do understand and get correct answer as facit!:) Thanks MarkFL and prove it for taking your time!

Regards,
 

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