Solve Problem Algebraically: f{g(x)} and g{f(x)}

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the algebraic manipulation of composite functions, specifically f{g(x)} and g{f(x)}, where f(x) = ln(x) and g(x) = e^x. Participants explore the implications of these functions being inverses of each other and seek to clarify the algebraic steps involved in solving g{f(x)}.

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that f{g(x)} = ln(e^x) = x, indicating no issues with this part of the problem.
  • There is a question regarding the evaluation of g{f(x)} = e^(ln(x)), with participants seeking clarity on how to solve this algebraically.
  • One participant emphasizes the need to understand what it means for f and g to be inverses, suggesting that g{f(x)} = f{g(x)} and both functions being one-to-one is a key point.
  • Another participant expresses confusion over the implications of ln(y) = ln(x) leading to y = x, indicating a need for further understanding of logarithmic properties.
  • A proposed algebraic solution is presented, where taking the natural logarithm of both sides leads to the conclusion that c = x.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the relationship between f and g as inverses, but there remains uncertainty regarding the algebraic steps to solve g{f(x)}. Some participants express confusion and seek further clarification.

Contextual Notes

Some participants indicate a lack of understanding of fundamental concepts related to logarithms and inverses, which may affect their ability to follow the algebraic manipulations presented.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students or individuals seeking to understand the properties of inverse functions and logarithmic identities in algebraic contexts.

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f(x)= lnx ; g(x) = ex

f{g(x)} = ln ex = x; not an issue

g{f(x)}= eln x = ? (answer for this) f(x) and g(x) are inverse of each other.

how to solve the problem algebraically.
 
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sphyics said:
f(x)= lnx ; g(x) = ex

f{g(x)} = ln ex = x; not an issue

g{f(x)}= eln x = ? (answer for this) f(x) and g(x) are inverse of each other.

how to solve the problem algebraically.
You answered the question yourself:
sphyics said:
f(x) and g(x) are inverse of each other.
 
Hootenanny said:
You answered the question yourself:

g{f(x)}= elnx = ? how to solve this equation algebraically and come to a solution..
 
What does it mean that f and g are inverses of each other??
 
sphyics said:
g{f(x)}= elnx = ? how to solve this equation algebraically and come to a solution..

I suggest trying to prove it for yourself first. If you really can't, I've "spoilered" a proof below. It sounds like you may want to go back and brush up on some of your fundamentals.

[tex]y = e^{\ln x}[/tex]
[tex]\ln y = \ln e^{\ln x}[/tex]
[tex]\ln y = \ln x[/tex] (by the power rule of exponential functions, since ln e = 1)
[tex]y=x=e^{\ln x}[/tex]
 
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Number Nine said:
I suggest trying to prove it for yourself first. If you really can't, I've "spoilered" a proof below. It sounds like you may want to go back and brush up on some of your fundamentals.

[tex]y = e^{\ln x}[/tex]
[tex]\ln y = \ln e^{\ln x}[/tex]
[tex]\ln y = \ln x[/tex] (by the power rule of exponential functions, since ln e = 1)

[tex]y=x=e^{\ln x}[/tex]

OMG i was perfect till ln y = ln x; after that i confused myself over if ln y = ln x; does that imply y = x, now i can see the perfect picture, thanks very much for shedding light over the darkness my ignorance :)
 
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micromass said:
What does it mean that f and g are inverses of each other??

g{f(x)} = f{g(x)}, and both are one to one, hence inverse of each other.
 
Algebraic Solution ??
OK
Let the solution be called "c"
e^(Ln x) = c
Take the Ln of both sides
Ln [ e^(Ln x) ] = Ln c
Use the Power Rule for Logs to get
Ln x Ln e = Ln c
but Ln e = 1 so
Ln x = Ln c
thus
c = x
 
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