Solve Quadratic Identities: 81x^4 - 63x^2 + 10 = 0

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The problem involves solving the quadratic equation 81x^4 - 63x^2 + 10 = 0 by substituting y for 9x^2. Participants are exploring the implications of this substitution and the subsequent steps to find the values of x.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to factor the quadratic after substitution and seeks confirmation of their solution. Other participants discuss the process of solving for x from the values of y, while some question the simplification steps taken.

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Participants are actively engaging with each other's contributions, providing confirmations and corrections. There is a focus on ensuring the accuracy of the algebraic manipulations involved in solving for x.

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Some participants express uncertainty about their mathematical skills, which may influence their confidence in the solutions presented. There is also a mention of the original problem's complexity and the rationale behind the substitution.

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Homework Statement



By substituting y for 9x^2 solve 81x^4 - 63x^2 + 10 = 0

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The Attempt at a Solution



My attempt at a solution is:

y^2 - 7y + 10
(y-2)(y-5)

therefore y = 2 y = 5 Can someone double check this?

Cheers
 
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That's correct. Now solve for x by setting 9x2 equal to each solution of y.
 
Many thanks for the reply?

Is this to check the solution?

It just seemed to easy for some reason - maths is not my strong point, might I add.

Cheers

Bohrok said:
That's correct. Now solve for x by setting 9x2 equal to each solution of y.
 
Oh I see - are you then saying

9x^2 = 2
9x = +- Sqroot 2
x = + - Sqroot 2/9


9x^2 = 5
9x = +- Sqroot 5
x= + - Sqroot 5/9


Cheers
 
Yes that is correct :smile:
You can even check for yourself by substituing those x values back into the original quadratic equation. You should find they work.

The only reason it asked you to substitute [tex]y=9x^2[/tex] into the equation [tex]81x^4 - 63x^2 + 10 = 0[/tex] is because it makes it more simple and easy to see how it should be solved.

Rather than substituing, you could've always factorized it as so:
[tex]81x^4-63x^2+10=(9x^2-2)(9x^2-5)=0[/tex]
 
zebra1707 said:
Oh I see - are you then saying

9x^2 = 2
9x = +- Sqroot 2
x = + - Sqroot 2/9


9x^2 = 5
9x = +- Sqroot 5
x= + - Sqroot 5/9


Cheers

√(ab) = √(a)√(b) ≠ a√(b) which is what you did between the first and second lines above.

You need to divide by 9 first, then take the square root of both sides.
[tex]9x^2 = 2 \rightarrow x^2 = \frac{2}{9} \rightarrow x = \pm\sqrt{\frac{2}{3}} = \pm\frac{\sqrt{2}}{3}[/tex]

Or take the square root of both sides completely, then solve for x
[tex]9x^2 = 2 \rightarrow \sqrt{9x^2} = \sqrt{2} \rightarrow 3x = \pm\sqrt{2} \rightarrow x = \pm\frac{\sqrt{2}}{3}[/tex]
 
Oh when I skimmed through it I read sqroot 2/9 as [tex]\sqrt{\frac{2}{9}}[/tex]. I didn't believe simplifying was top priority.
Thanks for spotting that Bohrok.
 
Hi there

Many thanks for both your assistance - it is greatly appreciated.

Cheers P
 

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