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The discussion focuses on solving a system of simultaneous equations represented in matrix form, specifically analyzing the conditions under which the system has no solutions, one solution, or infinitely many solutions. The equations are $x + 2y - z = 2$, $x - y + z = 5$, and $3x + 3y - z = \mu$. The determinant of the coefficient matrix must be evaluated to determine the conditions on the parameter $\mu$. It was concluded that the system has a unique solution when $\mu = 9$, as confirmed by Wolfram Alpha.

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$x+2y-z=2 \\
x-y+z =5 \\
3x+3y-z=\mu$

The question is for what value of the parameter has the equation (a) no solutions, (b) one solution, and (c) infinitely many solutions.

The trouble when I solve this system using guassian elimination I get $

(x, y, z) = ( -19-\frac{1}{2}\mu, 7, -7-\frac{1}{2}\mu)$
 
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Guest said:
$x+2y-z=2 \\
x-y+z =5 \\
3x+3y-z=\mu$

The question is for what value of the parameter has the equation (a) no solutions, (b) one solution, and (c) infinitely many solutions.

The trouble when I solve this system using guassian elimination I get $

(x, y, z) = ( -19-\frac{1}{2}\mu, 7, -7-\frac{1}{2}\mu)$

Write the system in matrix form as

$\displaystyle \begin{align*} \left[ \begin{matrix} 1 & \phantom{-}2 & -1 \\ 1 & -1 & \phantom{-}1 \\ 3 & \phantom{-}3 & -1 \end{matrix} \right] \left[ \begin{matrix} x \\ y \\ z \end{matrix} \right] = \left[ \begin{matrix} 2 \\ 5 \\ \mu \end{matrix} \right] \end{align*}$

The system will have unique solution if $\displaystyle \begin{align*} \left| \begin{matrix} 1 & \phantom{-}2 & -1 \\ 1 & -1 & \phantom{-}1 \\ 3 & \phantom{-}3 & -1 \end{matrix} \right| \neq 0 \end{align*}$ and either no solution or infinite solutions if $\displaystyle \begin{align*} \left| \begin{matrix} 1 & \phantom{-}2 & -1 \\ 1 & -1 & \phantom{-}1 \\ 3 & \phantom{-}3 & -1 \end{matrix}\right| = 0 \end{align*}$.
 
But those determinants won't give me a condition on $\mu$.

Is there a way to read this off from the reduced row echelon form?
 
Guest said:
But those determinants won't give me a condition on $\mu$.

Is there a way to read this off from the reduced row echelon form?
As the question is stated there is no condition on [math]\mu[/math].

-Dan
 
topsquark said:
As the question is stated there is no condition on [math]\mu[/math].

-Dan
I found that $\mu = 9$ - and wolfram says that's the only value for which the system has solution.
 
Guest said:
I found that $\mu = 9$ - and wolfram says that's the only value for which the system has solution.
(Doh) That just shows that thinking the problem backward (as I did) is no substitute for thinking of it by simply solving the problem.

My apologies and thanks for the catch.

-Dan
 
I reduced the matrix to row reduced echelon form

$A =\begin{pmatrix} 1& 0& 1/3& 0\\ 0 &1 &-2/3 &0\\ 0& 0& 0& 1\end{pmatrix}$
 
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If I compute the determinant I get det(A) = 0.

Could someone please explain what the answer to the problem is.
 

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