Solve Skip Bombing Problem: v, h1, h2, g

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving projectile motion, specifically the trajectory of a bomb released from a plane that skips off water before striking a dam. The problem seeks to determine the distance from the dam where the bomb should be released, given parameters such as the plane's speed, release height, impact height, and gravitational acceleration.

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  • Participants discuss the trajectory of the bomb, considering both the descent to the water and the ascent after the bounce. There are mentions of kinematic equations and conservation of energy principles to analyze the motion. Some participants express uncertainty about the assumptions made regarding the bomb's behavior upon bouncing.

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The conversation includes various attempts to break down the problem into manageable parts, with some participants providing insights into the physics involved. However, there is a noted need for participants to show their work for further assistance, indicating an ongoing exploration of the problem without a clear consensus or resolution yet.

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Participants have referenced historical events related to the problem, which may influence their understanding of the scenario. There is also a mention of the need to adhere to homework guidelines, emphasizing the importance of individual effort in solving the problem.

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Hey guys, please help me with this questions:

A fast plane approaches the dam in level flight at low altitude h1, with speed v. A bomb is released which skips off the water and bounces up against the dam, striking it at a height h2 above the water. Given the speed of the plane, and assuming that the bomb loses no speed when it bounces off the water(not very realistic), and that the bomb bounces off the water at the same angle at which it hits, how far from the dam should the bomb be released? Solve for this distance x in terms of v, h1, h2, and g
 
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not very realistic? this is the famous dambusters event of WW2 where a cylindrical bomb was spun up and then dropped a fixed distance from the target dam. It skipped right up to the wall and then sunk whereupon it exploded flooding a large part of the countryside in Germany.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dambusters_Raid

also NOVA did a show where some scientists tried to reproduce the design work on the bomb.

Lastly, we need to see some work before we can help with your problem.
 
ok, so I can figure myself the distance from the release of the boom until it touches the water, but I'm stuck at finding the distance from the bounce of the bomb to the dam.
 
The entire trajectory consists of two parts. Before the bounce and after. The duration of the first one is determined by the release height. The duration of the second is determined by the upward speed at the bounce (which is a function of the release height) and the target height. These two durations together times the release speed is the distance sought.
 
As you've already been told, you need to show your work.
 
wangliqin_loc said:
ok, so I can figure myself the distance from the release of the boom until it touches the water, but I'm stuck at finding the distance from the bounce of the bomb to the dam.

For the 2nd. part use kinematic and conservation of energy equations.

You should know the velocity when it touches the water and bounce equally and the velocity when it hits the dam by using conservation of energy equation. Horizontal KE remain constant.Energy is scalar.
The acceleration through the flight is constant.
 
wangliqin_loc said:
Hey guys, please help me with this questions:

A fast plane approaches the dam in level flight at low altitude h1, with speed v. A bomb is released which skips off the water and bounces up against the dam, striking it at a height h2 above the water. Given the speed of the plane, and assuming that the bomb loses no speed when it bounces off the water(not very realistic), and that the bomb bounces off the water at the same angle at which it hits, how far from the dam should the bomb be released? Solve for this distance x in terms of v, h1, h2, and g

The assumptions in red above means that after an appropriate amount of time, the bomb would be back up at plane level!

You said you could calculate the time and distance involved if falling the height h1.
It should be a similar calculation to work out time and distance to regain h2.


similar problem.

A perfect rubber ball is dropped from a height of 20m, falls to the ground and instantly does a perfect bounce back [same speed after as before],
taking g = 10 for simplicity - how long does the ball take to reach the ground? and how long does it take to get back to a height of 5m?
 

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