Solve the given differential equations or initial-value problems

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around solving two differential equations, specifically focusing on separable first-order differential equations. Participants explore methods and interpretations related to the equations presented.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents two differential equations: dy/dx = x/t and dy/dt = 3 + 5y, expressing difficulty in solving them.
  • Another participant suggests that the second equation is linear and proposes a method to solve it by rearranging and integrating.
  • A different participant questions the validity of the first equation, suggesting it may contain a typo and proposing an alternative form: dy/dx = y/t.
  • This participant further explains the separable nature of both equations and outlines a method for integrating them, emphasizing the need to treat dy/dt as a ratio of differentials.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the first equation, as one participant questions its formulation while others proceed with different interpretations. The second equation is acknowledged as separable, but the discussion remains unresolved regarding the first equation's validity.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the first equation's formulation, indicating a potential typo or misunderstanding. The discussion includes various interpretations and methods for solving the equations without resolving the discrepancies.

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Hello guys,

I have these two questions that I spent s much time to solve them but couldn't.


solve the given differential equations or initial-value problems

* dy/dx = x/t


* dy/dt = 3 + 5y

It's about SEPARABLE FIRST-ORDER DIFFERENTIAL equations.

Thank you so much,
 
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first try to solve second eq. dy/dt -5y=3 is a linear differansial eq. , you will get t(y)
and put t(y) in the first eq. like: t(y).dy=x.dx, integrate this, here is the solution.
 
It looks like you have two completely separate question there?

Is there a typo or something in the first equation?

The second equation: it's separable! dy/(3 + 5y) = dt. If you can't solve that question, you haven't understood the material.
 
Marwanx said:
Hello guys,

I have these two questions that I spent s much time to solve them but couldn't.


solve the given differential equations or initial-value problems

* dy/dx = x/t


* dy/dt = 3 + 5y

It's about SEPARABLE FIRST-ORDER DIFFERENTIAL equations.

Thank you so much,
Your first equation doesn't make sense. There shouldn't be an "x" in the equation if nothing else is said about "x". You probably mean dy/dx= y/t.

These are called "separable" because you can separate y and t. In the first equation dy/dx= y/t becomes (1/y)dy/dt= t and now you can treat the derivative dy/dt as the ratio of differentials (dy)/(dt) so that (1/y)dy= t dt and integrate both sides, (1/y)dy with respect to y and t dt with respect to t.

Similarly, dy/dt= 3+ 5y becomes dy/(3+ 5y)= dt in "differential form" and you can again integrate both sides.
 

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