Solve Word Problem Algebra: 3x+5y=11/3(x+y)

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The discussion revolves around a word problem involving algebraic equations related to a mixture of teas, specifically represented by the equations 3x + 5y = 11/3 and x + y = 1. Participants are exploring the implications of these equations in the context of a profit margin and the conversion of currency units from shillings to pounds.

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  • Participants are attempting to solve the equations for x and y, questioning the definitions and representations of these variables. There are discussions about the implications of a 10% profit margin and how it affects the equations. Some participants are substituting one equation into another to find values for x and y, while others express confusion over the interpretations of the results.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing various interpretations and calculations. Some have offered adjustments to the equations based on the profit margin, while others are questioning the correctness of their results compared to a reference answer in a book. There is a recognition of the complexity of the problem due to the mixture of units and financial concepts.

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Participants are dealing with potential misunderstandings related to the conversion of shillings and pence, as well as the implications of profit margins in the context of the problem. The original poster has expressed difficulty in analyzing the problem due to language barriers and the complexity of the financial aspects involved.

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MENTOR NOTE: Moved here from the General Math forum hence no homework template.

Hello! Sorry for not showing what I have tried to solve the problem.

Here it is
I let x = amount of inferior tea to be added to superior tea in lbs.
y = amount of superior tea in lbs.
3x+5y = 11/3(x+y)
solving for x I get x = 2y from here I cannot proceed.
Honestly this is only where I can get to. Please bear with me.
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First 3s 8d is 3.666 s = 11/3 shillings right?

There are two equations:

3x + 5y = 11/3

x + y = 1

Try subbing the second one into the first one.
 
jedishrfu said:
First 3s 8d is 3.666 s = 11/3 shillings right?

There are two equations:

3x + 5y = 11/3

x + y = 1

Try subbing the second one into the first one.
Yes, 3s. 8d is 11/3 s.

Solving for x. x = 1-y and substituting it to equation 3x+5y=11/3
3-3y+5y=11/3.
Solving for y. y= 1/3
Solving for x=2/3 lbs? But the answer in my book is 5lbs? Why is that?
 
Ahh I didn't read the problem completely. There's a 10 percent feature too so the 11/3 shilling should be (11/3) = (110/100) * z ie z=10/3 shilling for the first equation.

From the two equations you will have the ratio of x pds inferior tea to y pds superior tea to make one pound mixed tea.

Then you have to ask yourself given 1 pd of superior tea how much inferior tea do I need to mix into make the mixed tea.
 
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Hello I get for y, y = 3/20
For x, x = 17/20

What do these quantities represent? Because in my post above x is defined as the required value. I am still confused
And why multiply 11/3 by 9/10?

Please bear with me.
 
I made a mistake you should use 10/3 not 11/3 as I didn't interpret the 10% feature correctly.

The cost of the mix is 10/3 and he wants to make a 10% profit ie 11/3 --> 10/3 * 11/10 = 11/3

This adjustment gives you better x and y values.
 
I get x = 5/6 and y=1/6

My question is, in the system of equation in your post above, what do x and y represent?
 
You can't tell from the equations?

Look at the first equation what are we adding together here?
 
If it is the same thing as what I defined them in my first post the answer is 5/6 lbs?
 
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Yes and so now you should have the answer and it should agree with your book.
 
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Hello! But the answer in my book is 5 lbs not 5/6 lbs? Sorry, english is not my primary language. That is why I am having a hard time analysing the problem.
 
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x=5/6 pds and y=1/6 pds

x = ?? when y = 1 pd
 
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I get it now! Thank you so much!
 
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I had trouble with the problem too though not the english but the shilling and pence money issue. We use dollars and cents. I learned that there 12 pence to a shilling.
 
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so it seems that the last question was about the mixture ratio?

typically mixture ratio is given as (5) : (1) or something similar. It's noted in integers.

It's a tricky problem to even read about because.

1.weight is the same as the money (lbs = pound, and sterling= pound)
2.there are shillings and percentages.
3. I have to admit that the percentage profit got me confused as well.the profited price looks like it is the price for the customer in the store. The price that the tea-mixer pays, is a different price, and should be the original price which we should use, I think... Tea-mixer ups the price, to get value for his work,time and effort (?). This way, he can stay in business and keep getting money.

1.1 * p = 11/3 shillings [price to customers 3 shillings and 8 pence]
p = (11/3) / 1.1
p= 10/3 [price that tea-mixer pays himself]

p should be lower value in magnitude compared to 11/3, because otherwise the business venture will go bankrupt.
 

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