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This discussion focuses on solving work and kinetic energy problems using graphical integration techniques. The work done is defined by the equation W = ∫ F · dl, where the force is not constant. Participants suggest approximating the integral by dividing the distance into segments and estimating average force, leading to the equation W = KE_final - KE_initial. The conversation emphasizes the importance of graphical integration and suggests using midpoint approximations for better accuracy.

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Well, according to the rules you're supposed to show your efforts to solve this. Since you didn't do that, I assume you don't have any to show. I'll get you started:

(1) We'll assume friction is being ignored. Then the work done goes into generating kinetic energy.

(2) Work done is given by

W = \int \mathbf{F} \cdot d \mathbf{l}

(3) Since the force is not constant you need the equation for the force.

That should get you started.
 
oops i forgot that xD

I tried to solve this using a work energy theorem
W=KEfinal-KEinitial

SO because it is starting at rest the KE initial is zero

THerefore the equation would be W =.5mv^2

When solving for v, I get like 10.59, not an answer near the possible ones
 
Also we haven't learned integrals or whatever that L is in the equation you gave me, is there an easier way to start off?
 
LocknLoad said:
Also we haven't learned integrals or whatever that L is in the equation you gave me, is there an easier way to start off?

Well, there is. You can approximate the integral in the following way: Break the horizontal distance from 0 to 150 up into convenient length segments, for starters, say 15 meters wide. That will give you 10 segments. From the graph estimate the average force over that segment (I'd pick the midpoint of the segment). Multiply that value by 15 meters. That gives you a
\Delta W for that segment. Do this 10 times, once for each segment and add them up. That's an approximation to the total work. Set that equal to the kinetic energy and solve for v.

Three comments:

(1) The more segments you take the better the approximation.

(2) I just thought of this --you can take the midpoint of your segment and substitute it into the equation of the line to get an approximate average force for that segment

(3) What you are doing here is a simple graphical integration. Keep it in mind when you study calculus
 
Could I just find the area under the line?
 
Awesome, I used an intergral function on my calculator to find its total work, then set that to v. Thanks a ton!
 
LocknLoad said:
Could I just find the area under the line?

Well, duh. Why didn't I think of that?

Answer --I was too wrapped up in the line integral idea.
 

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