Solved: Calculate pH of Aqueous Solution w/ HBr(g)

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The discussion revolves around calculating the pH of an aqueous solution formed by dissolving hydrogen bromide gas (HBr) in water. The context includes a homework problem involving gas behavior, solution concentration, and pH calculation.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about how to approach the problem involving gas and questions the validity of the provided answer of -0.08.
  • Another participant points out that negative pH is possible and prompts the first participant to consider the amount of H+ ions present based on the moles of HBr.
  • A third participant challenges the initial calculation of moles of HBr, suggesting that the estimate is excessively high and provides a rough estimate based on ideal gas behavior under standard conditions.
  • This participant estimates the number of moles to be around 0.13, leading to a pH that would be slightly less than 0.1.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct number of moles of HBr or the resulting pH. There are competing views on the calculations and interpretations of the gas behavior.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential limitations in the assumptions made regarding gas behavior, particularly under non-standard conditions, and the implications for pH calculation.

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[Solved] pH of Aqueous Solution

Homework Statement


Calculate the pH of the following aqueous solution prepared by adding 3.0L HBr(g), measured at 27 degrees Celsius, 757 mmHg pressure, to sufficient water to give 0.10L of solution.


Homework Equations


pH = -log[H+]


The Attempt at a Solution


I'm not sure how to handle a question with gas? Is there another equation I'm supposed to use? The answer says -0.08, which doesn't seem to make sense...

I tried to do this question by first writing the equation
HBr(g) + H20(l) --> Br- + H30+
I found the number of moles of HBr gas to be 37.07...mol, and this is where my understanding fails me and I have no idea what to do. I even tried using n=cv which didn't work...

Please help!
 
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It's possible to have negative pH. Just look at the formula for pH you have written.

If you have 37.07 mol of HBr, dissolved in water, how much H+ do you have?
 
I'm not going to do the math for you but your answer for moles of HBr is waaaaay too high. Remember that under STP, an ideal gas has but one mole for every 23 L! You are only 2 degrees and 3 mm Hg away from that. Thus, a rough estimate of the number of moles is 3/23 or about 0.13 moles of HBr. In 0.1 liter that would be less than pH 0.1 but not much less.
 
ok thanks, i think i got it...
 

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