Solving 2 Blocks on a Spring: Ma = Kx

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving two blocks on a spring, specifically focusing on the relationship between mass, spring constant, and displacement. Participants are exploring the dynamics of the system and the application of relevant equations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are considering different interpretations of the problem setup, particularly regarding how to account for the masses of the blocks in relation to the spring. There are discussions about treating the blocks as a single object versus analyzing them separately. Some participants question the assumptions made about the initial and compressed lengths of the spring.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their thoughts and attempts to solve the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of the elastic potential energy equation, but there is no clear consensus on the correct approach yet.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the correct application of mass in the equations, as well as issues with precision in calculations. Participants are navigating through these uncertainties while adhering to homework constraints.

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Homework Statement
A 5 kilogram block is fastened to a vertical spring that has a spring constant of 1300 newtons per meter. A 3 kilogram block rests motionless on top of the 5 kilogram block.

a. When the blocks are at rest, how much is the spring compressed from its original length?
Relevant Equations
F = ma, F = kx
I honestly have no idea why I'm getting this question wrong, because it seems fairly straightforward.

I thought that treating the two blocks as one object would work, so 5 + 3 = 8. With Fg = Fs, ma = kx. Then, 8 x 9.8/1300 = x. x would be 0.06. That's been marked as an incorrect answer, though.

Thank you for any help!

edit: I got it! the issue was with preciseness, I didn't enter enough digits
 
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well for (a), please forgive me if I am wrong, but I am visualizing the problem as if you placed the 3kg block on top of the 5kg spring system. Therefore, the original length was when the 5kg spring system had no extra weight and the compressed length was when you placed the 3kg block on top i.e. m = 3 not m = 5 + 3
 
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well for (a), please forgive me if I am wrong, but I am visualizing the problem as if you placed the 3kg block on top of the 5kg spring system. Therefore, the original length was when the 5kg spring system had no extra weight and the compressed length was when you placed the 3kg block on top i.e. m = 3 not m = 5 + 3
I thought you had it for a moment! That would make a lot of sense. But unfortunately I just tried it and it's still incorrect :(
 
eri139 said:
I thought you had it for a moment! That would make a lot of sense. But unfortunately I just tried it and it's still incorrect :(
So sorry! As my last comment I feel as if working with the elastic potential energy equation
For springs: PE = (1/2)kx^(2) is worth a shot. Since PE Is also equal to mgh or mgx in this case. Keep on working hard! You got this!
 

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