Solving 2nd Order Homogeneous Equations with Non-Constant Coefficients

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The discussion centers around solving second-order homogeneous differential equations with non-constant coefficients, specifically exploring methods and approaches for finding solutions to such equations. Participants express confusion regarding the transition from constant coefficients to non-constant coefficients and seek guidance on general solution techniques.

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  • One participant expresses familiarity with solving second-order homogeneous equations with constant coefficients but seeks methods for non-constant coefficients, questioning the existence of a general solution formula.
  • Another participant notes that there is no general method for solving second-order equations with variable coefficients and suggests guessing the first solution as a potential approach.
  • A participant identifies the specific form of the equation as an "Euler-type" equation and proposes trying a solution of the form x^r, explaining that a substitution can reduce it to a constant coefficients equation.
  • Another participant mentions the Frobenius method, suggesting it involves assuming a solution in the form of a power series and encourages checking external resources for more information.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on a single method for solving the equations, with multiple competing approaches and techniques being discussed. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best strategies for tackling these types of differential equations.

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Participants highlight the limitations of certain methods, such as the undetermined coefficients method, which is described as highly restricted. There is also mention of the need for specific forms of solutions and the potential complexity of variable coefficient equations.

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Hi Guys,

I know how to find the solution to a 2nd order homogeneous with constant coefficients but how do you solve one with a non constant
ie

x^2y''+2xy' ... etc = 0

Is there a general solution formula for these types of problems?

My book seems to jump from 2nd order homogeneous with constant coefficients straight to
2nd order non homogeneous with undetermined coefficients.
any help greatly appreciated.
 
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Hello, beetle2. It didn't mentioned 2nd order with variable coefficients, since there is no general method in solving that. However, what you can do is by guessing the first solution. Then you can find the 2nd one using various method, such as:

http://www.voofie.com/content/84/solving-linear-non-homogeneous-ordinary-differential-equation-with-variable-coefficients-with-operat/"

At last, I don't really like undetermined coefficients method, which is highly restricted in the class of function you can solve. You may want to have a look at:

http://www.voofie.com/content/6/introduction-to-differential-equation-and-solving-linear-differential-equations-using-operator-metho/"

Lastly, for various tutorial, paper, articles, discussion in Ordinary differential equations, you may refer to:

http://www.voofie.com/concept/Ordinary_differential_equation/"
 
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The specific example you give, with the coefficient of each derivative being a power of x, with power equal to the degree of the derivative, ax^2y''+ bxy+ cy= 0 is an "equi-potential" or "Euler-type" equation. "Trying" a solution of the form x^r, in the same way you "try" a solution of the form e^{rx} for equations with constant coefficients.

That works because the substitution t= ln(x) reduces an "Euler-type" equation with independent variable x to a "constant coefficients" equation with independent variable t.

For more general linear equations with variable coefficients, you typically have to try power series solutions. Let y= \sum a_n x^n, substitute that and its derivatives into the equation and try to find the coefficients, a_n.
 
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