Solving 3D Schrodinger Equation - Explaining 1/X(x) Term

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The discussion centers on the time-independent Schrödinger equation in three dimensions, specifically addressing the term 1/X(x) that arises during the separation of variables. Participants explore the derivation and implications of this term within the context of solving the equation for specific potentials, such as the infinite square potential.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the origin of the 1/X(x) term in the Schrödinger equation after applying separation of variables.
  • Another participant suggests that the term arises from dividing through by 1/XYZ to isolate the equations, but notes that this method may not be applicable for all potentials.
  • A request for an outline of the derivation is made to clarify the process for understanding the equation.
  • A further elaboration is provided, indicating that assuming an infinite square potential allows for a separable solution, leading to the form of the equation presented.
  • The derivation includes the application of the Hamiltonian and the separation of variables into components X(x), Y(y), and Z(z).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the applicability of the separation of variables method for all potentials, and there is ongoing clarification regarding the derivation of the 1/X(x) term.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the potential and the conditions under which separation of variables is valid. The discussion does not resolve the applicability of these methods across different scenarios.

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The Schrödinger equation in 3D (time independent).

Letting Phi = X(x).Y(y).Z(z), and solving as a PDE...

The equation looks pretty much the same except there is a separate Hamiltonian for each of the Cartesian coordinates x y z. However, the 1/X(x) term etc. really confuses me, I don't know where it comes from. Could someone perhaps explain??

ie. H_x = [-(h^2)/2m].[1/X(x)].[(d^2)X(x)/d(X(x))^2] + V(x)
^^^^

where h is representing h-bar, and d the partial derivative.

Cheers guys!:biggrin:
 
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It occurs because you divide through by 1/XYZ to isolate the equations.

But note that using a separation in Cartesian coordinates is not always a viable solution, and will only work for some potentials.
 
Can you perhaps outline the derivation from the start? It's just clearing it up for me...
 
It goes something like assume the potential is an infinite square potential

[tex]V(x,y,z) = \left(\begin{array}{cc}0 if x,y,z < a \\ \infty else[/tex]

We can assume a separable solution [tex]\Psi (x,y,z) = X(x)Y(y)Z(z)[/tex]

[tex]\frac{-\hbar^2}{2m} [Y(y)Z(z) \frac{d^2 X}{dx^2}+X(x)Z(z) \frac{d^2 Y}{dy^2}+X(x)Y(y) \frac{d^2 Z}{dz^2}] + V(x,y,z)XYZ = E(XYZ)[/tex]

Then just divide everything by 1/XYZ.
 

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