Solving a Simple PDE: Need Assistance!

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The discussion revolves around solving a partial differential equation (PDE), specifically the one-dimensional heat equation, with given boundary conditions. Participants explore the requirements for a unique solution, including the necessity of initial conditions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the PDE and boundary conditions, suggesting that a solution of the form e^{i(kx-\omega t)} does not satisfy the boundary conditions.
  • Another participant identifies the equation as the 1D heat equation and suggests that solutions are well-known, recommending a search for existing solutions.
  • A participant expresses confusion about the uniqueness of the solution, questioning whether the provided data is sufficient.
  • Another participant clarifies the difference between boundary conditions, which specify values at the spatial boundaries, and initial conditions, which specify values at a specific time.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the PDE is the 1D heat equation and that boundary conditions are necessary. However, there is disagreement regarding the sufficiency of the provided conditions for a unique solution, as the need for initial conditions is emphasized.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the importance of initial conditions in solving PDEs, indicating that without them, a unique solution may not be obtainable. There is also a lack of consensus on the implications of the boundary conditions alone.

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Simple PDE...

I'm trying to solve the PDE:

\frac{\partial^2 f(x,t)}{\partial x^2}=\frac{\partial f(x,t)}{\partial t} with x \in [-1,1] and boundary conditions f(1,t)=f(-1,t)=0.

Thought that e^{i(kx-\omega t)} would work, but that obviously does not fit with the boundary conditions. Has anyone an idea?
 
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Aidyan said:
I'm trying to solve the PDE:

\frac{\partial^2 f(x,t)}{\partial x^2}=\frac{\partial f(x,t)}{\partial t} with x \in [-1,1] and boundary conditions f(1,t)=f(-1,t)=0.

Thought that e^{i(kx-\omega t)} would work, but that obviously does not fit with the boundary conditions. Has anyone an idea?
Your equation is the 1D heat equation, the solutions of which are very well known and understood. A google search should yield what you need.

P.S. You will also need some kind of initial condition.
 


Hootenanny said:
Your equation is the 1D heat equation, the solutions of which are very well known and understood. A google search should yield what you need.

P.S. You will also need some kind of initial condition.

Hmm... looks like it isn't just a simple solution, however. It seems I'm lacking the basics ... :confused: I thought this is sufficeint data to solve it uniquely, what is the difference between boundary and initial conditions?
 


Aidyan said:
I thought this is sufficeint data to solve it uniquely,
Afraid not, without knowing the temperature distribution at a specific time you aren't going to obtain a (non-trivial) unique solution.
Aidyan said:
what is the difference between boundary and initial conditions?
The former specifies the temperature on the spatial boundaries of the domain (in this case x=-1 and x=1). The latter specifies the temperature distribution at a specific point in time (usually t=0, hence the term initial condition).
 

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