Solving a Tricky Substitution with d^2x/dt^2

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Hi,

Firstly: This is not a homework Q. Check my previous posts, you will see the stuff i ask is for my own genuine learning.

Let:
[itex]\vartheta[/itex] = ([itex]\Omega[/itex]*t)/2

Now I have: d^2x/dt^2

And I want to sub in for t.

So:

d/dt = d[itex]\vartheta[/itex]/dt * d/d[itex]\vartheta[/itex]
(Basic chain rule)

I can work out that: d[itex]\vartheta[/itex]/dt = [itex]\Omega[/itex]/2

So:

d/dt = [itex]\Omega[/itex]/2 * d/d[itex]\vartheta[/itex]

Now for the second derivative:

d^2/dt^2 = d[itex]\vartheta[/itex]/dt * d/d[itex]\vartheta[/itex] * (d/dt)

Now, I already have an expression for d/dt = d[itex]\vartheta[/itex]/dt * d/d[itex]\vartheta[/itex]

So I can sub this in and get:

d^2/dt^2 = d[itex]\vartheta[/itex]/dt * d/d[itex]\vartheta[/itex] * d[itex]\vartheta[/itex]/dt * d/d[itex]\vartheta[/itex]
Which is:
(correct me if I am wrong):
d^2/dt^2 = d[itex]\vartheta[/itex]^2/dt^2 * d^2/d[itex]\vartheta[/itex]^2

This is where I need the help of the experts :-)

The text I am trying to understand gives this:
d^2x/dt^2 = [itex]\Omega[/itex]^2 / 4 * d^2x/d[itex]\vartheta[/itex]^2

Any ideas how they have made that step... it seems like they have simply said:
d[itex]\vartheta[/itex]/dt * d[itex]\vartheta[/itex]/dt = (d[itex]\vartheta[/itex]/dt)^2
Is this acceptable?
If [itex]\Omega[/itex] = 2[itex]\pi[/itex]*(1/t). Then its like saying:
d^2/dt^2 (([itex]\Omega[/itex]*t)/2) = [itex]\Omega[/itex]^2 / 4 Any ideas/help?

thanks
 
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hi strokebow! :smile:

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strokebow said:
Let:
[itex]\vartheta[/itex] = ([itex]\Omega[/itex]*t)/2

d/dt = d[itex]\vartheta[/itex]/dt * d/d[itex]\vartheta[/itex]
(Basic chain rule)

The text I am trying to understand gives this:
d2x/dt2 = [itex]\Omega[/itex]^2 / 4 * d^2x/d[itex]\vartheta[/itex]^2

i don't really understand your equations :redface:

the way they got that is

d2x/dt2

= d/dt (dx/dt)

= {d/dθ (dx/dt)} dθ/dt

= {d/dθ (dθ/dt dx/dθ))} dθ/dt

= {(Ω/2 d2x/dθ2)} Ω/2 :wink:
 
tiny-tim said:
= {d/dθ (dθ/dt dx/dθ))} dθ/dt

= {(Ω/2 d2x/dθ2)} Ω/2 :wink:

Hi,

Thanks you for your reply! :-)

The inbetweener steps would be . . . (?)

= {d/dθ (dθ/dt dx/dθ))} dθ/dt

= {d/dθ dx/dθ (dθ/dt )} dθ/dt

= {d/dθ dx/dθ (Ω/2)} Ω/2

= {d2x/(dθ)2 (Ω/2)} Ω/2

= {(Ω/2 d2x/dθ2)} Ω/2

yar?