Solving Cable Tension and Moment Magnitude Problem

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving cable tension and moment magnitude in a three-dimensional coordinate system. The original poster presents a scenario with two cables connected to points A, B, and C, with specific coordinates and a known tension in one cable.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the calculation of moments using position vectors and forces, questioning how to express the tension in cable AB in Cartesian form.
  • There is discussion on finding the moments caused by the cables and whether to split the tension into components for cross product calculations.
  • Some participants suggest finding unit vectors along the cables to assist in the calculations.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights and clarifications on vector representations and moment calculations. There is a collaborative effort to understand the relationships between the vectors and the moments they create.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the problem as presented, including specific tension values and moment requirements. The original poster expresses confusion about the necessary steps and calculations involved.

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http://books.google.ca/books?id=nYR... you want the magnitude of the moment&f=false
The above link has a copy of the question. It is question 4.65 on page 144

If you can't see the picture here is the needed information:
pointA(0,8,0)-on tree
pointB(0,0,10)
pointC(14,0,14)

There is a cable from A to B with a tension of 100lb and onother cable from A to C with an unknown tention. If the magnitude of the moment about the origin(0,0,0) is 1500 ft-lb, what is the tension on rope AC?


Homework Equations


M=r * F


The Attempt at a Solution


I know that the moment is equal to the position vector *(cross) the force in cartesian form, but how do you express the 100lb foce in rope AB in cartesian form? Do i even need to?

Also to find the final answer I am thining you have the equation:

1500 = the sum of both moment forces
 
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Hi sapphire4770, welcome to PF.
Position vector OA = 0i+8j+0k
Position vector OB = 0i +0j + 10k
Position vector OC = 14i + 0j + 14K
Vector AB = OB - OA. Similarly
Vector AC = OC - OA.
Now find the moments,
 
Thanks for the help, but I'm still kinda confused.

Ok, so the vectors would be:
AB: [0,-8,10] or -8j +10k
AC: [14,-8,14] or 14i - 8i + 14k

To find the moment caused by AC do i simply multiply? 100[0,-8,10]? Or do i have to split up the 100 lb tension into its x y and z components and find the cross product?

Thanks again, any help is greatly appreciated!
 
Find the vector OA. = 8(0i + j + 0k)
Find unit vector along AB and AC.
So the vector AB = 100/sqrt(164)[0i -8j + 10k]
The moment of AB about o is OAXAB.
Similarly find the vector AC and moment of AC about O. Since both of them are in the counterclockwise direction, add them to get net momentum.
 

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