Solving Cauchy PDEs using the Method of Characteristics

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The discussion revolves around solving Cauchy partial differential equations (PDEs) using the method of characteristics, particularly in the context of wave and heat equations. Participants are exploring various techniques and approaches to tackle the problem, including characteristics in multiple dimensions and the implications of radial symmetry.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss attempts at separating variables and using Fourier transforms, while expressing uncertainty about their coursework. There are inquiries about the use of characteristic coordinates and substitutions for variables in the context of the wave equation.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing insights and suggestions about the problem. Some guidance has been provided regarding the use of radial symmetry and the Laplace operator, but there is no explicit consensus on the approach to take. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored.

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Participants mention constraints related to their coursework, such as not having learned certain methods like Fourier transforms or characteristics in three dimensions. There is also a focus on the assumptions regarding the symmetry of the problem.

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Could someone tell me where to start? I tried separating variables, which got me no where (plus we haven`t technically learned it), and I tried putting it into a form of D^2U, but I couldn`t figure that out either. Please help.

Thank you.
 
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Have you tried Fourier transforms?
 
We haven`t learned that. There must be a more simple way. :S
 
What HAVE you done on your course? Once I know this I can select the appropriate technique.
 
Cauchy problems for the heat and wave equations. Poisson equation, laplace equation, characteristic curves, dirichlet problem, finite difference method, advection in 1d..
 
Okay have you done characteristics for 3 variables rather than two?

The way to do this in 1d is to use characteristic co-ordinates.

Mat
 
No we`ve only done it for two variables :S...I`ll give it a shot, but can you let me know what substitutions to use please? Do i just introduce a third variable equal to like y-ct or what :S
 
Hmmm, come to thin about it have you done anything in 2 spatial dimensions? Can you extend what you did on the cauchy problem for the wave eqution?
 
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We looked at the Cauchy problem in 1 spatial dimension. Most of what we have done is in two dimensions total.
 
  • #11
I think the question is saying that it is radially symmetric, do you agree?
 
  • #12
Yes that`s what it seems like.
 
  • #13
So what is the radially symmetric part of Laplace operator \nabla^{2}
 
  • #14
In polar coordinates, it is (1/r)(d/dr)(rdu/dr)...Am I suppose to take the laplacian of u, and see something?
 
  • #15
Expand that out and denote v=ru, and what equation do you have now?
 
  • #16
But u(x,y,t) is not in terms of r, can I write u(r,t) instead and use the laplacian on that? If that`s what you mean..or do you mean something else?

I can expand it, and get (1/r)(du/dr)+(d/dr)(du/dr), but there is no u*r in this.

If I let u=v/r, I get v/r^3.
 
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  • #17
You should end up with the 1D equation for v, solve this in the usual manner and the problem is easily solved.
 
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I get v/r^3 = 0 :S...I edited my post if you didn`t see, can you check if that`s what I`m suppose to get? (but I still don`t yet see how this will show that u vanishes for the given condition, or why we can assume u satisfies laplace`s equation).

Thanks for the help btw.
 
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Just to confirm the equation you should be solving is:

<br /> \frac{\partial^{2}u}{\partial t^{2}}-c^{2}\left(\frac{\partial^{2}u}{\partial r^{2}}+\frac{2}{r}\frac{\partial u}{\partial r}\right) =0<br />

Use v(t,r)=ru(r,t) to obtain a 1D wave equation, turn that intop characteristic co-ordinates in the usual way and that will give you your solution.

I am off to bed now.
 
  • #20
So do you mean I should I write u=v/r, and insert that into the equation you wrote? Good night, thanks.

If so, I get vtt=0, hope that is right!
 
  • #21
Yes, have you not been doing that?
 
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I wasn`t before :S, but now I get I get vtt=0, so I guess I can just integrate that and substitute u in.
 
  • #23
as u=u(t,r) so is v=v(t,r)
 
  • #24
I get u(r,t)=a(r)*r*t+r*b(r), where a,b are some functions of r. I don`t see how this means u vanished for the given condition though :S

Edit: Oops I didn`t differentiate the v.
 
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Calculate:

<br /> \frac{\partial^{2}v}{\partial r^{2}}<br />

to get the folowing equation:

<br /> \frac{\partial^{2}v}{\partial t^{2}}-c^{2}\frac{\partial^{2}v}{\partial r^{2}}=0<br />

Then introduce the co-ordinates:

<br /> \begin{array}{ccc}<br /> \alpha &amp; = &amp; r+ct \\<br /> \beta &amp; = &amp; r-ct<br /> \end{array}<br />

use the condition you have and this should give you the result you need.
 

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