Solving Collision Problem: 10g & 15g Objects Moving in Opposite Directions

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The problem involves an elastic collision between a 10.0-g object and a 15.0-g object moving in opposite directions, with the goal of finding their velocities after the collision.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply conservation of momentum and energy equations but expresses difficulty in solving for two unknowns. Some participants question the conservation principles involved in elastic collisions.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the relationships between the variables involved in the collision. Guidance has been offered on how to manipulate the equations to isolate one variable, though there is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the calculations presented.

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The discussion includes a note on potential math errors and the importance of considering both positive and negative solutions when dealing with square roots in the context of velocity. There is an acknowledgment of the original poster's confusion regarding the equations and their application.

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Homework Statement



1) A 10.0-g object moving to the right at 20 cm/s makes an elastic head-on collision with a 15.0-g object moving in the opposite direction at 30.0 cm/s. Find the velocity of each object after collision.

Homework Equations



m_{1}v_{i1} + m_{2}v_{i2} = m_{1}v_{f1} + m_{2}v_{f2}

(.5)m_{1}v_{1i}^{2} + .(5)m_{2}v_{2i}^{2} = (.5)m_{1}v_{1f}^{2} + .(5)m_{2}v_{2f}^{2}

The Attempt at a Solution



I plugged values into the equations and got...

(.01)(.2) + (.015)(-.3) = (.01)(v_{f1}) + (.015)(v_{f2})

(.5)(.01)(.2^2) + (.5)(.015)(-.3^2) = (.5)(.01)(v_{f1}^{2}) + (.5)(.015)(v_{f2}^{2})

But I'm still stuck with two variables. How do I solve one of them?
 
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What is conserved in an elastic collision? (momentum and...)
 
hunter151 said:
What is conserved in an elastic collision? (momentum and...)

Energy.

I was under the impression I had the equation for conservation of energy there (the 2nd one).
 
Oh wow, I am an idiot. You are correct on the equations. Now you're faced with two equations and two unknowns; therefore, you can solve. One way of doing things is to solve one of the equations for one variable, then plug this result into the second equation, to be left with a single equation with one unknown variable.

For example, you could find Vf1 in terms of Vf2 from the first equation, and plug this Vf1 into the second equation. Now you are faced with an equation of just Vf2 as unknown.
 
hunter151 said:
Oh wow, I am an idiot. You are correct on the equations. Now you're faced with two equations and two unknowns; therefore, you can solve. One way of doing things is to solve one of the equations for one variable, then plug this result into the second equation, to be left with a single equation with one unknown variable.

For example, you could find Vf1 in terms of Vf2 from the first equation, and plug this Vf1 into the second equation. Now you are faced with an equation of just Vf2 as unknown.

Thanks.

I'm trying to do that now, and...

.0002 - .000675 = (.005)vf1^2 + (.0075)vf2^2

.005vf1^2 = -.000475 - .0075vf2^2

vf1^2 = .095 - 1.5vf2^2

vf1 = .3082 - 1.5vf2

-.0025 = (.01)(.3082 - 1.5vf2) + (.015)(vf2)

-.005582 = -(.015vf2) + (.015vf2)

Well, my vf2s cancel out :/

Did I make a math error?
 
When you took the square root of Vf1, you forgot that there are two solutions, + and -. ;)
 

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