Solving Coordinate Homework: lxl + lyl = 1

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The problem involves finding the set of all points (x,y) that satisfy the equation |x| + |y| = 1, which relates to coordinate geometry and absolute values.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss transforming the absolute value equation into inequalities and consider different cases based on the signs of x and y. There is confusion about whether to keep absolute values in calculations and how to interpret the results.

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The discussion is active, with participants exploring various interpretations and approaches to the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding case analysis, but there is no explicit consensus on the best method to proceed.

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Participants are questioning the exact wording of the problem and its implications, as well as the necessity of graphing the solution set.

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Homework Statement



find the set of all points (x,y) which satisfy lxl + lyl = 1

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The Attempt at a Solution



first i decided to make lxl and lyl into inequality.

-1 < x < 1
-1 < y < 1

lxl = lyl - 1

so from any value of y between (-1,1) would work ? will this give lxl the correct result?
will they both equal to 1 ?
please help I am confused.
 
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There are 4 cases to consider:

x,y>0
x>0, y<0
x<0, y>0
x,y<0

For the first, obviously you have the line y=1-x. And yes you place the restrictions that 0\leq x\leq 1. Can you finish the rest?
 
hm... logically wouldn't y = 1 - x be the only solution ? since we are not dealing with absolute values anymore.

or should i keep absolute values in the calculations?

lyl = 1 - lxl

-1 < x < 0
 
Well that's like saying logically shouldn't x=1 be the only solution to |x|=1.

The point (-1/2, 1/2) satisfies the equation, but this point doesn't lie on the line y=1-x. Try do what I suggested in my previous post.
 
lovemake1 said:
find the set of all points (x,y) which satisfy lxl + lyl = 1
Is this exactly how the problem is stated?

A reasonable, but not very helpful, answer is {(x, y) | |x| + |y| = 1}. Another reasonable answer is a graph of this equation.
 
Mark44 said:
Is this exactly how the problem is stated?

A reasonable, but not very helpful, answer is {(x, y) | |x| + |y| = 1}. Another reasonable answer is a graph of this equation.


The question asks to graph for all coordinates (x,y) which satisfy l x l + l y l = 1
 
OK, that makes more sense. Follow Mentallic's advice in post #2.
 

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