Solving Doppler Shift to Calculate Cyclist's Speed

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The discussion revolves around a scenario involving the Doppler effect as it relates to a cyclist's speed and the perceived color of a traffic light. Participants are tasked with deriving an equation that connects the cyclist's speed to the wavelength shift of light emitted by the traffic light.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the Doppler effect and the speed of the cyclist, with one individual attempting to derive an equation based on given formulas. Questions arise regarding the correctness of the derived equation and the use of symbols.

Discussion Status

Some participants are questioning the formulation of the equation and the appropriateness of the symbols used. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between the variables involved, with no clear consensus yet on the correct approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants are discussing the implications of the Doppler effect in a real-world scenario, with some suggesting the need for more relatable examples to clarify the concepts involved.

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Homework Statement


A man riding his bicycle was caught driving through a red traffic light. The man was taken to court and trialled where he claimed he was cycling so quickly that the light had appeared to be green to him due to the Doppler effect. The prosecution accepted his excuse but decided to find him 1 Euro for every km hr by which the cyclist was traveling at.

Combine and re-arrange the following two equations to give an equation that relates to the speed of the cyclist to the shift in the wavelength of the light emitted by the traffic light.


Homework Equations


z=[Δλ] / [λ0] ... Where z is the red/blueshift, λ0 is the original wavelength, Δλ is the change in wavelength

v= z x c ... Where v is the speed of the galaxy, c is the speed of light, z is as above.

The Attempt at a Solution


s = Speed of motorist

s = [(c)(Δλ/λ0)2-c] / [(Δλ/λ0)2+1]

Does my equation look correct as I'm not convinced? Any help would be great.
 
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Is anyone able to help with this please? :)
 
Beatdiz;3288040[h2 said:
The Attempt at a Solution[/h2]
s = Speed of motorist

s = [(c)(Δλ/λ0)2-c] / [(Δλ/λ0)2+1]

Does my equation look correct as I'm not convinced? Any help would be great.

Hi Beatdiz, welcome to PF! :smile:

I do not understand how you arrived at your equation for s.
In your case you do not have to work with "the speed of the galaxy v".
But your v is simply the speed of the bicyclist.
No need to introduce a new symbol s, of which I do not understand what you did with it.

So your equation should simply read:
v = (Δλ/λ0) x c

Cheers!
 
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Beatdiz said:
Is anyone able to help with this please? :)

I think you need to start with more realistic examples, like that one:
in a train station, one train arrives exactly each n minutes, always in the same direction.
All the train travels at v speed
Now you take a train in the opposite direction running at v' , you cross a train in the opposite direction each n' minutes.

State n' as a function of the other data.
 

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