Solving Final Temp of Ice & Water Mixture

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves determining the final temperature of a mixture consisting of a 100g piece of ice at 0.0°C and 500g of water at 100°C. The discussion revolves around the heat transfer between the ice and water, considering phase changes and specific heat capacities.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to account for phase changes in the calculations, particularly the latent heat of fusion for the ice. There are questions about the correct application of heat transfer equations and the proper mass values used in the calculations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered corrections regarding the inclusion of the heat of vaporization and the mass of the ice in the equations. There is a mix of calculated temperatures being proposed, with some participants questioning the reasonableness of their results based on the mass of the water compared to the ice.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of heat transfer and phase changes, with some noting the potential for errors in initial calculations. The discussion reflects a learning process with varying interpretations of the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


A 100g piece of ice at 0.0°C is dropped into 500g of water at 100°C. What is the final temperature of mixture.



Homework Equations


Q=mL (latent heat)
Q=mcΔt
Qw=-Qx (energy absorbed by water is equal but opposite to that of substance inserted into water)
specific heat ice: 2.09 * 10^3 J/kg * °C
specific heat water: 4.186 * 10^3 J/kg * °C
specific heat steam: 2.01 * 10^3 J/kg * °C
latent heat of fusion: 3.33 * 10^5 J/kg
latent heat of vaporization: 2.26 * 10^6 J/kg

The Attempt at a Solution


Do you find the total heat including phase change heat for both substances, using final temperature as an unknown variable? If so:
Q = mcΔt + mL
Qw = (0.5 *4.186 * 10^3 *(Tf-100)) + 0.5 * 2.26 * 10^6
Qx= -((0.5 *4.186 * 10^3 *(Tf-0)) + (0.5 * 3.33 * 10^5))
I set both equal after simplifying, and obtained a final temperature of 264.14°C, which is too bizarre of an answer.
 
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The water at 100C is still liquid, so the heat of vaporization is not needed.
However, the ice at 0C is solid, and the heat of fusion must be added to the ice to melt it.
 
Only the piece of ice undergoes a phase change. The hot water remains water as it cools to the final temperature. So, think about how you wrote Qw. Also, I think you used the wrong mass for the ice in your expression for Qx.
 
Thanks for the help. Not including the heat of vaporization, I got 28.08 C. I also did have a mistake in calculating the energy of the piece of ice where I put it the mass of the water instead. Is 28.08 a reasonable answer, or should it be closer to 100 C because the more massive object would have more of an influence on the temperature?
 
I get the final temperature to be quite a bit higher, in agreement with your intuition.
 
To get 28.08 I did
Qw=-Qx
(0.5 *4.186 * 10^3 *(Tf-100)) = -((0.1 *4.186 * 10^3 *(Tf-0)) + (0.1 * 3.33 * 10^5))
2093Tf - 209300 = -418.6Tf - 33300
2511.6Tf = 176000
Tf = 70.07 C

I think I have it, I might have made some original mistake in calculation.
 
That looks good.

As a rough approximation, ice at 0°C corresponds to (hypothetical) water at -80°C. So you heat 100g by 150° and cool five times this amount by 1/5 of the temperature difference. The .07 are the deviation from this approximation ;).
 

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