Solving for 'a' in a Complex Equation

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around solving for the variable 'a' in a complex equation involving exponential and hyperbolic functions. The original equation presented is 7 = (a/2)(e^(4/a) + e^(-4/a)) + a.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the manipulation of the equation, including multiplying both sides by 2 and the implications of that step. There is a discussion about the potential for a closed formula for 'a' and whether a real solution exists. Some participants suggest using hyperbolic functions to simplify the equation, while others express uncertainty about how to proceed with the hyperbolic cosine function.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing insights and hints without reaching a consensus. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of hyperbolic functions, but there remains uncertainty about the next steps and the existence of a solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that there may not be a real value of 'a' that satisfies the equation, and there is a mention of a graph illustrating the relationship between the functions involved.

Denyven
Messages
19
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement



Solve for a

7=\frac{a}{2}(e^\frac{4}{a} + e^\frac{-4}{a}) + a

Homework Equations



7=\frac{a}{2}(e^\frac{4}{a} + e^\frac{-4}{a}) + a

The Attempt at a Solution



7=\frac{a}{2}(e^\frac{4}{a} + e^\frac{-4}{a}) + a

multiply by 2 on both sides

14=a(e^\frac{4}{a} + e^\frac{-4}{a}) + a

this is where i am stuck

is it even possible?
 
Last edited:
Physics news on Phys.org
There certainly won't be a nice closed formula for a and there may be no real value of a that solves it at all.
 
Denyven said:

Homework Statement



Solve for a

7=\frac{a}{2}(e^\frac{4}{a} + e^\frac{-4}{a}) + a

Homework Equations



7=\frac{a}{2}(e^\frac{4}{a} + e^\frac{-4}{a}) + a

The Attempt at a Solution



7=\frac{a}{2}(e^\frac{4}{a} + e^\frac{-4}{a}) + a

multiply by 2 on both sides

14=a(e^\frac{4}{a} + e^\frac{-4}{a}) + a

this is where i am stuck

is it even possible?

when you multiplied with 2, you didnt multiply the last term, which should give 2a
 
hint: don't multiply with 2, and use your knowledge of Hyperbolic functions.. things may get easier from there ..
 
thebigstar25 said:
hint: don't multiply with 2, and use your knowledge of Hyperbolic functions.. things may get easier from there ..
That's a good suggestion but I doubt things will get much easier!

\frac{e^{\frac{4}{a}}+ e^{-\frac{4}{a}}}{2}= cosh(\frac{4}{a})
but there is still a problem with that "a" outside the cosh.
 
Hmmm Alright. So I now have
7=a cosh(\frac{4}{a})+a
I guess I would move a over and divide by a to get
\frac{7-a}{a}=cosh(\frac{4}{a})
Now I don't know what to do. Is there some property of cosh in which I can pull something out or split something? We just started hyperbolic functions and I still know very little.
Thanks very much for all the help so far!
 
There is no real valued solution. Here's a graph of the relevant portion of

<br /> \frac{a}{2}(e^\frac{4}{a} + e^\frac{-4}{a}) + a\hbox{ and } 7<br />



graph.jpg
 

Similar threads

Replies
4
Views
4K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
1K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
3K
Replies
8
Views
4K
Replies
11
Views
2K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
1K
  • · Replies 53 ·
2
Replies
53
Views
10K
  • · Replies 23 ·
Replies
23
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
4K