Solving for a variable inside a sin()

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The discussion revolves around solving for a variable \( x \) within the context of a sine function, specifically in the equation \( \sin( \text{degtorad}( (180 - (180 - 360/x))/2 ) ) = y/z \). Participants explore various mathematical properties and transformations related to sine and cosine functions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests eliminating the 180's using properties of sine, noting that \( \sin(180 + x) = -\sin x \) and \( \sin(90 + x) = \cos(x) \).
  • Another participant rewrites the original equation, simplifying it step by step, ultimately expressing it as \( \sin(180/x) = y/z \).
  • A different participant points out that \( \sin( (180 - 360/x) /2 ) \) can be transformed into \( \cos(180/x) \) and questions the familiarity with the arccos function.
  • One participant explains the definitions and properties of arcsin and arccos, emphasizing the caution needed due to the non-one-to-one nature of sine and cosine functions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present various transformations and interpretations of the sine function, but there is no consensus on a definitive method for solving for \( x \). Multiple approaches and viewpoints remain in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the values of \( y \) and \( z \) are not clarified, and the discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps needed to isolate \( x \). The transformations depend on the properties of sine and cosine, which may vary based on the specific context of the problem.

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sin( degtorad( (180 - (180 - 360/x))/2 ) ) = y/z

degtorad(degrees) means the the degrees inside the parenthesis are converted to radians.

How do you solve for x?

Thank you.
 
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you can eliminate the 180's by using properties of sine
sin (180+ x) = -sin x = sin(-x)

also,
sin(90+x) = cos(x)
 
sin( degtorad( (180 - (180 - 360/x))/2 ) ) = y/z

Is this right?

sin( (180 - (180 - 360/x))/2 )
= sin( ( (180 - 360/x))/2 )
= sin( (180 - 360/x) /2 )

sin( (180 - 360/x) /2 )
= sin( ( 360/x) /2 )
= sin( ( 180/x) )
= sin( 180/x )

sin( 180/x ) = y/z

um, then what?
 
sin( (180 - 360/x) /2 ) = sin (90 - 180/x) = cos(-180/x) = cos (180/x)

Are you familiar with arccos (or cos^{-1})?

By the way, what exactly are y and z?
 
Shorn of all the other things, arcsin( ) (also written sin-1( )) is defined as the inverse of sin( ) and arccos() (also written cos-1( )) is defined as the inverse of cos( ) (well, principal value). That is, arcsin(sin(x))= x and arccos(cos(x))= x.

You have to be a bit careful about that: since sin(x) and cos(x) are not "one-to-one" they don't have inverses, strictly speaking. Given an x between -1 and 1, there exist an infinite number of y such that sin(y)= x or cos(y)= x. Arcsin(x) always gives the value, y, between -pi/2 and pi/2 such that sin(y)= x and arccos(x) always gives the value, y, between 0 and pi such that cos(y)= x.
 

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