Solving for C: Struggling With an Equation

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The original equation involves a relationship between P, alpha, and C, where C is the variable to be solved for. The discussion centers around manipulating the equation and applying approximations to isolate C.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to simplify the equation using logarithmic properties and approximations, but struggles to isolate C. Some participants suggest exploring the Lambert W function as a potential tool for solving the equation.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different mathematical approaches, including the use of the Lambert W function, but there is no explicit consensus on a method to isolate C. Guidance has been offered regarding the Lambert W function, and further clarification on its calculation is being sought.

Contextual Notes

The original poster has provided specific values for P and alpha, but the exact numerical values are not discussed. The complexity of isolating C and the limitations of expressing the Lambert W function in elementary terms are noted as constraints in the discussion.

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The originial equation I have been working with is

P = ((alpha^C)/(C Factorial))/(summation of alpha^J/J factorial), J going from 0 to C)

After approximately the denominator to e^alpha, and applying stirling's approximation on C factorial, further simplifying, I have the follow:

ln P = C ln alpha - (C ln C) + C - alpha

Solve for C (C is a variable, not constant):

P is given, alpha is given, so the only unknown is C, but after spending hours on trying various things, I just could not isolate C as itself and come up with the solution. Please help
 
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Thanks for the guidance! Actually I also tried looking at the Lambert W too, from the website I can understand how they come up with the W number, but how is W (value) calculated for example ..

Can you please enlighten me? Thanks
 
To quote wikipedia:

The Lambert W relation cannot be expressed in terms of elementary functions.

Wiki also gives some ways to calculate value of W(x) using series.
 

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