Solving for Perfect Squares of $f(x)=x^2-19x+99$ for All Natural Numbers $x$

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The discussion focuses on finding all natural number values of \(x\) such that the quadratic function \(f(x) = x^2 - 19x + 99\) results in a perfect square. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and exploration of conditions under which the function yields perfect squares.

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  • One participant requests to find all natural number values of \(x\) for which \(f(x)\) is a perfect square.
  • Another participant expresses confusion with a simple "Why?" but later acknowledges a missed point.
  • A third participant offers a positive acknowledgment of the previous contributions.

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Find all values of $x$ such that $f(x)=x^2-19x+99$ is a perfect square for all $x\in N$.
 
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This is equivalent to integer results for
f(k)=(19+Sqrt[4k^2-35])/2 where k is a Natural number.

eg. f(3)=10 and f(9)=18
 
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RLBrown said:
This is equivalent to integer results for
f(k)=(19+Sqrt[4k^2-35])/2 where k is a Natural number.

eg. f(3)=10 and f(9)=18
Why?

-Dan

Oops. Missed the obvious. Thanks.

-Dan
 
let
$y^2 = x^2 - 19 x + 99$
$\Rightarrow\, 4y^2 = 4x^2 - 76 x +396$ to make perfect square and avoid fraction
$\Rightarrow\, 4y^2 = (2x- 19)^2 - 19^2 + 396$
$\Rightarrow\, (2y)^2 = (2x- 19)^2 + 35$
$\Rightarrow\, (2x- 19)^2 -(2y)^2 = - 35$
$\Rightarrow\, (2x- 19+2y)(2x- 19-2y) = - 35$
without loss of generality we can assume y > 0
then we get factoring - 35
$(2x-19+2y, 2x - 19- 2y)$ =$ (35,-1)$ or$ ( 7, -5)$ or $(5,-7)$ or $(1, -35)$

or x = 18 or 10 or 9 or 1
 
kaliprasad said:
let
$y^2 = x^2 - 19 x + 99$
$\Rightarrow\, 4y^2 = 4x^2 - 76 x +396$ to make perfect square and avoid fraction
$\Rightarrow\, 4y^2 = (2x- 19)^2 - 19^2 + 396$
$\Rightarrow\, (2y)^2 = (2x- 19)^2 + 35$
$\Rightarrow\, (2x- 19)^2 -(2y)^2 = - 35$
$\Rightarrow\, (2x- 19+2y)(2x- 19-2y) = - 35$
without loss of generality we can assume y > 0
then we get factoring - 35
$(2x-19+2y, 2x - 19- 2y)$ =$ (35,-1)$ or$ ( 7, -5)$ or $(5,-7)$ or $(1, -35)$

or x = 18 or 10 or 9 or 1
Nicely done. (Bow)

-Dan
 

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