Solving for the Sum of an Arithmetic Progression | m>n | AP Homework

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In the discussion, participants analyze a problem involving the sums of terms in an arithmetic progression (AP), where the sum of the first n terms equals m and the sum of the first m terms equals n, with the condition m > n. Two equations are derived from the sums, leading to a complex solution for the sum of the first (m-n) terms. A simpler method is suggested by manipulating the initial equations, allowing for an expression of the sum in terms of m, n, and the common difference d. Ultimately, the final expression for the sum of the first (m-n) terms is simplified to (n - m)(1 + nd).
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Homework Statement


In an AP, sum of first n terms is equal to m and sum of first m terms is equal to n. Then, find the sum of first (m-n) terms in terms of m and n, assuming m>n.

Homework Equations


Sum of an AP: n/2 * {2a+ (n-1)d}

The Attempt at a Solution


We get two equations:
m= n/2 * {2a+ (n-1)d} and
n= m/2 * {2a+ (m-1)d}
where a and d are first term and common difference respectively. Now, we can solve for a and d separately and plug the values in this equation:
Sm-n = (m-n)/2 * {2a + (m-n-1)d}
But, as we can see it is a very lengthy and ambiguous method. Can someone please find an easier method for the problem?
 
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subhradeep mahata said:

Homework Statement


In an AP, sum of first n terms is equal to m and sum of first m terms is equal to n. Then, find the sum of first (m-n) terms in terms of m and n, assuming m>n.

Homework Equations


Sum of an AP: n/2 * {2a+ (n-1)d}

The Attempt at a Solution


We get two equations:
m= n/2 * {2a+ (n-1)d} and
n= m/2 * {2a+ (m-1)d}
where a and d are first term and common difference respectively. Now, we can solve for a and d separately and plug the values in this equation:
Sm-n = (m-n)/2 * {2a + (m-n-1)d}
But, as we can see it is a very lengthy and ambiguous method. Can someone please find an easier method for the problem?
Certainly it is lengthy, but there is nothing "ambiguous" about it. Anyway, what is the final answer that you obtained?
 
I got this after a tedious calculation : {(m-n)(m+2n)}/m
please let me know if there are any easier methods.
 
It looks like subtracting those two equations gives you something very close to what you want.
$$m = \frac{n}{2} \left [2a + (n-1)d \right ] = na + \frac {n(n-1)d}{2} \\
n = \frac{m}{2} \left [2a + (m-1)d \right ] = ma + \frac {m(m-1)d}{2} \\
m - n = (n - m)a + \left [n(n-1) - m(m-1) \right ] \frac {d}{2}$$
$$S_{m-n} = \frac {m-n}{2} \left [2a + (m - n - 1)d \right ] = (m - n)a + (m-n)(m - n - 1)\frac {d}{2}$$

So it's not hard to express ##S_{m-n}## in terms of ##(m - n)## and ##d##. That may be useful in shortening the calculation.
 
Here is another shortening:
$$S_{m-n} = {m - n \over 2} (2a + (m - n - 1)d) \\
= {m \over 2} (2a + (m-1)d - nd) - {n \over 2} (2a + (n-1)d - (2n - m)d) \\
= (n - m) + {d \over 2} (n(2n - m) - mn) \\
= (n - m) + {d \over 2} 2n (n - m) \\
= (n - m) (1 + nd)$$
 
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