Solving Gaussian Potential - Analyzing Energy Differences

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The discussion revolves around solving the Schrödinger equation for a Gaussian potential, specifically analyzing the energy differences between the ground state and the first excited state as a function of the potential strength, V0. Participants explore both numerical and analytical approaches to this problem, including Taylor expansion and dimensional analysis.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes solving the Schrödinger equation numerically for a Gaussian potential and expresses confusion about the dimensional analysis process.
  • Another participant notes that the energy level differences in a harmonic potential scale with the square root of the prefactor, suggesting that for large V0, the difference should grow with √V0.
  • A participant questions how to show the energy difference analytically, seeking clarification on the procedure.
  • Discussion includes the conversion to dimensionless units and the implications of the prefactor on energy levels.
  • One participant confirms that they found the energy difference to scale as √(2V0) and seeks further understanding of the harmonic approximation's validity for larger V0.
  • Another participant offers an intuitive explanation regarding deeper potential wells having more bound states, which could affect the behavior of the wave functions.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding and confusion regarding the analytical approach and dimensional analysis. There is no consensus on the best method to demonstrate the energy differences analytically, and multiple perspectives on the implications of the Gaussian potential are presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need for conversion factors in the dimensionless version of the equation and the potential effects of higher-order terms in the potential for small V0, indicating that assumptions about the potential's behavior may not be fully resolved.

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Okay, I have solved the schrödinger equation numerically by making it dimensionless (though I am still confused about this proces). And then approximating it on a finite interval and solving the resulting eigenvalue equation. This allows me to solve for the wave function of different potentials.
I started with the harmonic oscillator but have no reached the Gaussian one:
V = -V0exp(-x2)
In one simulation I am asked to find the difference in energy between the ground state and the first excited state as a function of V0. On the attached graph I have done this for V0=1..2..3...10
Does it look right?
I am then asked the following: Solve the problem analytically by taylorexpanding the potential. So I taylor expand around x=0 to second order and find:
V(x) = -V0 + V0x2
Plugging this into my dimensionless Schrödinger equation I get:
½∂2ψ/∂x2 + (-V0 + V0x2)ψ = Eψ
I thought aha. The x2-term can just be put in the harmonic oscillator form if we pick k=2V0 and the -V0 term will just shift the energy of the oscillator, not alter the difference between E1 and E0.
But in thinking it over again there are some problems. With my dimensionless equation I just had V(x)=½x2 for the harmonic oscillator. Now I have 2V0 in front of that. How will this constant effect my energies?
And is all this even the right procedure?
 

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The difference in energy levels scales with the square root of the prefactor in a harmonic potential - in the dimensionless shape, this is hidden in the parameter transformations. In a region where this harmonic approximation is good (probably large V0), I would expect that the difference grows with the square root of V0, and your graph roughly looks like that. For small V0, you probably get additional effects from higher orders of the potential.
 
okay but I am meant to show this analytically. How can I do that?
 
With the standard formulas for a harmonic oscillator. In your dimensionless version, you should have the conversion factors somewhere.
Or with the simple sqrt-dependence if you like.
 
well the conversion formula to dimensionless units is x' = x * √(mω/hbar)
So do I go back to formulate it all in terms of x? :S I am very confused sorry.
 
That is possible. Alternatively, you can extract the scale of V from that prefactor.
 
okay I did the problem and did indeed find that the difference went like √(2V0) - I am just curious - how is it you can see that the harmonic approximation is better for bigger v0?
 
Intuition. Deeper wells of the same size tend to have more bound states, so the lowest states are "deeper" in the well and smaller in terms of their size in x.
 

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