Solving Hard Inequalities: 1/(x+4)>x-4 & 1/(x+7)>x-7

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The discussion revolves around solving inequalities of the form 1/(x+4) > x-4 and 1/(x+7) > x-7. Participants are exploring methods to manipulate these inequalities, particularly focusing on the challenges posed by the fractions involved.

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  • Participants discuss various methods to eliminate fractions, including multiplying by the square of the denominator. There are attempts to simplify the inequalities and explore the implications of the resulting expressions.

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The conversation includes several attempts to solve related inequalities, with participants sharing their steps and questioning the validity of their approaches. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the product of factors in the context of inequalities, but no consensus has been reached on the best method to proceed.

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Participants express uncertainty about specific rules and methods related to inequalities, indicating a lack of familiarity with certain concepts that are being discussed. There are references to prior knowledge of inequalities, suggesting varying levels of experience among participants.

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I am looking at questions like
1/(x+4)>x-4
or 1/(x+7)>x-7
I have no idea how to solve them,
I have simplified to (-x^2+50) /(7+x)
however I don't think it is correct and I don't know what do do from there.
 
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hi alewisGB! :smile:

(try using the X2 button just above the Reply box :wink:)

obviously, you need to get rid of the fraction!

in an ordinary equation, you'd just multiply both sides by the denominator

but that might be negative (which would change the > to <),

so, instead, multiply both sides by the square of the denominator …

what do you get? :smile:
 
for:
1/(x+2)>x-2
Step 1: x+2>x3+2x2-4x-8
Step 2: 0>x3+2x2-5x-10
Step 3: 0>(x+2)(x2-5)
Step 4: if 0=(x+2)(x2-5)
x = -2 or +√5 or -√5
Step 5: Unsure, do input -2.01 and -1.99 and see which one is true? (same for +or-√5) or do I do something else
 
hi alewisGB! :smile:

this way is easier :wink:

1/(x+2)>x-2
Step 1: x+2>(x+2)(x2-4)
Step 3: 0>(x+2)(x2-5)
Step 4: 0>(x+√5)(x+2)(x-√5)

… and you now have this in the form 0 > (x-a)(x-b)(x-c) with a<b<c,

sooo … ? :smile:
 
I have got the answer of -√5 > x and 5 > x > -2
I have not done further maths and although inequalities were covered they were not nearly this complex
I have not seen the rule "0 > (x-a)(x-b)(x-c) with a<b<c"
So I am not sure what that means
Thank you for your help :)
 
alewisGB said:
I have not seen the rule "0 > (x-a)(x-b)(x-c) with a<b<c"
So I am not sure what that means

oh, that's easy

the RHS is the product of three numbers,

and it can only be negative if one or all three of them are negative,

which means either x < a or b < x < c :wink:
 
Thank you ever so much, you have no idea how grateful I am. This will help me in now but also in the future :)
 

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