Solving Integral 2exp(2+jωt): Explaining Answer

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The discussion revolves around the evaluation of the integral \(\int^{\infty}_{0}2e^{2+jωt}dt\) and the conditions under which it converges. Participants explore various methods of integration and the implications of the complex variable \(\omega\) on the integral's behavior.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the integral's evaluation and questions why the result is not infinite, detailing their steps and reasoning.
  • Another participant suggests changing the integration limits and separating the exponential function to facilitate solving the integral, mentioning contour integration as a potential method.
  • Several participants discuss the convergence of the integral based on the values of \(\omega\), with one asserting that both \(a\) and \(b\) must be less than zero for convergence.
  • Another participant challenges this assertion, stating that while \(b\) must be negative for convergence, \(a\) can be any real number, prompting further clarification on the conditions for convergence.
  • There is a reiteration of the final expression for the integral, with a focus on the condition that \(\omega < 0\) leads to a specific result.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the conditions for convergence of the integral, with differing views on the roles of \(a\) and \(b\) in the complex variable \(\omega\).

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the dependence on the definitions of the complex variable \(\omega\) and the integration limits, as well as the unresolved mathematical steps regarding the convergence criteria.

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I do not understand the following integral:

\int^{\infty}_{0}2e^{2+jωt}dt = \frac{j2e^{2}}{\omega}

Why is it not ∞? Here are my steps:

Let u = 2+jωt, du = jωdt, dt = \frac{1}{jω}du = -\frac{j}{ω}du

\int^{\infty}_{0}2e^{2+jωt}dt

= -\frac{2j}{ω}\int^{\infty}_{2}2e^{u}du

= -\frac{2j}{ω}\stackrel{lim}{h\rightarrow∞}\int^{h}_{2}2e^{u}du

= -\frac{2j}{ω}\stackrel{lim}{h\rightarrow∞}(e^{h}-e^{2})

To me, this limit does not exist, so why is the answer \frac{j2e^{2}}{\omega}?
 
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You also need to change your integration limits, if ##t \to \infty## then ##u \to 2 + j \infty##.

First thing I would do is separate ##e^{2 + j \omega t} = e^2 e^{j \omega t}## and pull the e² in front of the integration sign. The remaining integral can be solved using for example contour integration.
 
hogrampage said:
I do not understand the following integral:

\int^{\infty}_{0}2e^{2+jωt}dt = \frac{j2e^{2}}{\omega}

Why is it not ∞? Here are my steps:

Let u = 2+jωt, du = jωdt, dt = \frac{1}{jω}du = -\frac{j}{ω}du

\int^{\infty}_{0}2e^{2+jωt}dt

= -\frac{2j}{ω}\int^{\infty}_{2}2e^{u}du

= -\frac{2j}{ω}\stackrel{lim}{h\rightarrow∞}\int^{h}_{2}2e^{u}du

= -\frac{2j}{ω}\stackrel{lim}{h\rightarrow∞}(e^{h}-e^{2})

To me, this limit does not exist, so why is the answer \frac{j2e^{2}}{\omega}?

That's cus you don't know what \omega is. Let's just look at:
\int_0^{\infty} e^{iwt}dt=\frac{1}{iw}e^{iwt}\biggr|_0^{\infty}

Let \omega=a+bi then we have
\frac{1}{i(a+bi)}e^{i(a+bi)t}\biggr|_0^{\infty}

Now, for what values of a and b will that expression converge?
 
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jackmell said:
That's cus you don't know what \omega is. Let's just look at:
\int_0^{\infty} e^{iwt}dt=\frac{1}{iw}e^{iwt}\biggr|_0^{\infty}

Let \omega=a+bi then we have
\frac{1}{i(a+bi)}e^{i(a+bi)t}\biggr|_0^{\infty}

Now, for what values of a and b will that expression converge?

a, b < 0 which means ω < 0. So:

\frac{1}{iw}e^{iwt}\biggr|_0^{\infty} = -\frac{1}{iω} for ω < 0.

From that, the complete answer to the original integral is:

-\frac{2e^{2}}{jω} = \frac{j2e^{2}}{ω} for ω < 0.

Thanks for the help! If I made any mistakes above, let me know.
 
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hogrampage said:
a, b < 0 which means ω < 0. So:

\frac{1}{iw}e^{iwt}\biggr|_0^{\infty} = -\frac{1}{iω} for ω < 0.

From that, the complete answer to the original integral is:

-\frac{2e^{2}}{jω} = \frac{j2e^{2}}{ω} for ω < 0.

Thanks for the help! If I made any mistakes above, let me know.

Your analysis of a and b is not correct. for w=a+bi, in order for the integral to converge, b has to be less than zero. a can be any real number. Go through that to make sure you understand it.
 

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