Solving Logarithms: Find x in 2x^2-7x+3 = 0

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The discussion revolves around solving logarithmic equations, specifically focusing on the equation Log(2x-3)=log(4x-3)-logx. Participants are attempting to manipulate the logarithmic expressions and derive a polynomial equation from them.

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  • Participants discuss the application of the quotient law of logarithms and the simplification of logarithmic expressions. There are questions about the accuracy of the algebraic manipulations and whether the correct equations have been used. Some participants express confusion over the initial conditions and the validity of the proposed solutions.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on algebraic steps and questioning the correctness of the derived polynomial. There is an emphasis on ensuring that the logarithmic expressions are properly defined and that the solutions satisfy the original equations.

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Participants note the importance of considering the domain restrictions for the logarithmic functions involved, which may affect the validity of potential solutions.

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Homework Statement

Log(2x-3)=log(4x-3)-logx

Homework Equations



Logcl =logcr
L=r

The Attempt at a Solution


Quotient law of logs

So I simplfied:
Log(2x-3)=log(4x-3)/x

Since same base:
2x-3=4x-3/x

2x^2-7x+3=0
(X-1)(x-6)

The ans is supposed to be 3. I don't know what I'm doing wrong?
 
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Have you double checked your algebra? After you've removed the logarithms and come up with the algebraic equation, are you sure you manipulated it into a polynomial correctly?
 
Coco12 said:

Homework Statement




Log(2x+5)=log(4x-3)-logx

Homework Equations



Logcl =logcr
L=r

The Attempt at a Solution


Quotient law of logs

So I simplfied:
Log(2x+3)=log(4x-3)/x
First it was log(2x + 5), but now it's log(2x + 3). Which one is it?
Coco12 said:
Since same base:
2x+3=4x-3/x

2x^2-7x+3
(X-1)(x-6)

The ans is supposed to be 3. I don't know what I'm doing wrong?

For the equation you posted, 3 is not a solution. Here's the check:
If x = 3,
log(11) =? log(9) - log(3)
log(11) =? log(9/3) = log(3)
Since log(11) ≠ log(3), 3 is not a solution.

In your work you need a few more parentheses.
Coco12 said:
So I simplfied:
Log(2x+3)=log(4x-3)/x

Since same base:
2x+3=4x-3/x
In the two equations above, log(4x-3)/x should be written as log[(4x - 3)/x], and 4x -3/x is not the same as (4x - 3)/x.
Coco12 said:
2x^2-7x+3
(X-1)(x-6)
In what you have above, you started with an equation, but lost the = 0, so you're not working with equations any more.


Have you copied the equation correctly? If so, did you look at the right solution? There's also the possibility that the answer in your book is wrong.
 
Ya it's supposed to be 2x-3. That is what the book says.. That the ans is 3.

I think 3 is right. Because when I plugged in into the equation, I got it..

However how did they get that?
 
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Coco12 said:
Ya it's supposed to be 2x-3.
Which is different from either of the two expressions you had before. You need to be more careful!
Coco12 said:
That is what the book says.. That the ans is 3.
So besides missing the brackets, is the solution correct?

No.
Just before you did the factoring, you had 2x2 - 7x + 3, which is correct as far as it goes.

It should be 2x2 - 7x + 3 = 0.

Try again on the factorization.

You will also need to consider the domain for each individual log expression.
What are the restrictions on x so that log(2x - 3) is defined?
What are the restrictions on x so that log(4x - 3) is defined?
What are the restrictions on x so that log(x) is defined?

Your solution has to be in an interval for what all three log expressions are defined.
 
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Even if it is supposed to be 2x-3, you're factorization is still incorrect. To see why, simply try plugging in the roots you found back into the logarithmic equation, as Mark44 suggested, or even in the polynomial from which you obtained the roots. You will find that they do not satisfy the equation.
 

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