Solving Momentum Conservation: Finding Velocity & Direction

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The discussion revolves around a momentum conservation problem involving two fish, one moving from west to east and the other from north to south. The original poster seeks to find the magnitude and direction of the combined velocity after one fish swallows the other, while neglecting water drag effects.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the conservation of momentum but expresses uncertainty about the calculations and direction finding. Some participants suggest separating the momentum calculations based on directional axes and question the method of combining the velocities. Others propose using trigonometric functions to determine the final angle after calculating the resultant velocity.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the momentum conservation principle. Some guidance has been provided regarding the separation of momentum components and the calculation of resultant velocity, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach yet.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. There is also a noted uncertainty regarding the correct application of momentum conservation in a two-dimensional context.

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1. A hungry 12.5 kg predator fish is coasting from west to east at 70.0 cm/s} when it suddenly swallows a 1.15 kg} fish swimming from north to south at 3.60 m/s.

Find the magnitude of the velocity of the large fish just after it snapped up this meal. Neglect any effects due to the drag of the water.

Find the direction of the velocity of the large fish just after it snapped up this meal.




2.conservation of momentum, p=m/v



3. (12.5kg)(.7m/s)+(1.15)(3.6) = total momentum= 12.89, then i got the total mass by adding 12.5+1.15... i use the equation p=m/v and solve for the veolicity.

I get the wrong answer here and I am not sure how to find the direction..


THANKS
 
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Because the two fish are traveling in different directions, you can't just add up the two momentums and get 12.89. Since one is traveling west to east (hint: along the 'x' axis) and the other north to south (in the direction of the 'y' axis), you have to calculate the two separately, then figure out the velocities after the 'meal' to get the direction and magnitude of the 'after' velocity.
 
ok so i calculate the that the one moving on the x-axis is 8.75, and the one moving on the y-axis at 4.14, then do i square them, add them together, and then take the square root to get the "after" velocity?
 
Not quite. (I'm a little shaky on this). You have to do the x and y separately, so you have 8.75 x and 4.14 y. So, on the other side of the equation, the x has to equal 8.75, but now the 'm' of the mv is 12.5 + 1.15, which is 13.65. So the 'v' in the x direction is

[tex]\frac{8.75}{13.65}[/tex]

Do the same for the 'y'.

Then, you do the square root of the sum of the squares of the velocities to get 'the' velocity. Then you use trig to get the angle.

Let me know if you run into problems.
 

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