Solving ϵ-N Proofs: Simplifying the Denominator with sqrt(2)

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The discussion focuses on solving ϵ-N proofs, specifically simplifying the denominator involving sqrt(2). The key takeaway is that sqrt(2) is a constant and does not affect the limit as n approaches infinity. Participants confirm that to prove the inequality n^3 ≤ n^3 + 2n - sqrt(2), one should eliminate constants in the numerator and denominator to facilitate limit calculations. The limit approaches 0 as n increases, confirming the validity of the proof.

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I've tried to make the denominator smaller as is usual with ϵ-N proofs. But the sqrt(2) confuses me. Any help is much appreciated.
 
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Indeed, try to make the denominator smaller. Try to prove that there is an N such that for all n>N

n^3\leq n^3+2n-\sqrt{2}

The \sqrt{2} is just a red herring. It's just a constant.
 


Should I prove that by induction? Also, once I've resolved the denominator, how should I go about with the denominator? And any help with the limit theorem explanation would be very handy. Thanks!
 


Oshada said:
Should I prove that by induction?

Yes.

Also, once I've resolved the denominator, how should I go about with the denominator?

If you're done with the denominator, then you have

\left|\frac{7n+13}{n^3+2n-\sqrt{2}}\right|\leq \left|\frac{7n+13}{n^3}\right|

You may want to eliminate the constant 13 by making the numerator bigger.

And any help with the limit theorem explanation would be very handy. Thanks!

Well, the trick is basically to bring n in front of the numerator and to bring n3 in front of the denominator. Then you can eliminate an n and you can calculate the limit using the limit rules.
 


Thank you very much! Does the limit go to 0? I got 0 from both N and limit theorems (N was sqrt(20/ϵ))
 


Yes, the limit will go to 0!
 

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