Solving Nonpolar Solubility: CO2 & CH4

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The discussion focuses on the solubility of nonpolar gases, specifically carbon dioxide (CO2) and methane (CH4). Despite CO2's higher density, both gases mix due to intermolecular forces, particularly induced dipole-induced dipole interactions, which outweigh the effects of gravity. The concept of entropy is also highlighted, indicating that systems tend to move towards greater disorder, facilitating the mixing of these gases. The principles discussed are rooted in the second law of thermodynamics, which governs the behavior of mixtures.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of intermolecular forces, specifically induced dipole-induced dipole interactions.
  • Basic knowledge of thermodynamics, particularly the second law of thermodynamics.
  • Familiarity with the concept of solubility and the phrase "like dissolves like."
  • Awareness of the properties of gases, including density and behavior in mixtures.
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  • Research the role of entropy in chemical reactions and mixtures.
  • Study the effects of intermolecular forces on solubility in nonpolar substances.
  • Explore the differences between polar and nonpolar solubility mechanisms.
  • Investigate the implications of density in gas mixtures and how it affects behavior.
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Chemistry students, chemical engineers, and researchers interested in the behavior of nonpolar gases and their solubility dynamics.

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This is not a homework question. It's the beginning of August for pete's sake.

I read that like dissolves like, but what about the density of the molecules that are being dissolved? For instance in a solution (gaseous or liquid) of CO2 and CH4, they are both nonpolar, so they mix. However, CO2 is quite a bit more dense. So wouldn't it settle to the bottom?

The above situation doesn't make sense to me on why they dissolve in the first place either. I understand how ionic molecules dissolve in a polar substance. For instance, NaCl in H2O. The crystalline substance, NaCl, is more or less picked apart by water molecules due to attraction of opposite charges, but there is a lack of opposite charge attraction in NON polar molecules other than dispersion forces from what I understand. What makes a nonpolar substance dissolve another one? Is this a situation where "It just does?"
 
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The force of gravity is really quite trivial compared to intermolecular forces, even those as weak as induced dipole-induced dipole interactions. So the density of the compounds ends up not really mattering. Another approach to thinking about this is entropy. Things in our universe like to become more chaotic, this is the second law of thermodynamics. So if you put two liquids or gases together they usually mix (unless mixing is too energetically unfavorable, such as in the case of oil and water.)
 

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