Solving Power/Work Problem: Average Power of Elevator

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem concerning the average power of an elevator that accelerates upwards before reaching a constant cruising speed. The problem involves concepts of work, energy, and forces acting on the elevator.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of work and power, questioning the forces acting on the elevator during acceleration. There are attempts to clarify the relationship between work, energy, and the forces involved.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering insights into the forces at play and the need to consider both kinetic and potential energy. There is an emphasis on understanding the correct application of Newton's laws and the implications for the calculations being performed.

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Some participants note that the force calculated may not account for the additional force required to overcome gravity during acceleration. There is also mention of the need for a sketch to visualize the forces acting on the elevator.

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I have a problem about average power that I am stuck on:
A 686 kg elevator starts from rest and moves upward for 3.10 s with constant acceleration until it reaches its cruising speed, 1.70 m/s.
a) What is the average power of the elevator during this period?
b) What is the average power during an upward cruise with constant speed?

I used (delta x) = (V+Vo)/2 x t to solve for delta X, and got 2.635 m. I used V=Vo+at to solve for acceleration, and got 0.55 m/s^2 (I also used delta V over delta t and got the same answer).

I know that power is Work/time, which is F(delta x)/(delta t). I used F=mg to find a force of 994.18 N, and plugged it into work = F(delta X) to get 320.705 J.

I tried dividing this by my time, 3.1s, and got 320.705, but the Webassign page told me I was not only wrong but was off by orders of magnitude. Any tips on what I'm doing wrong?
thanks for your time and patience!
 
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Aubiefan said:
I know that power is Work/time, which is F(delta x)/(delta t). I used F=mg to find a force of 994.18 N, and plugged it into work = F(delta X) to get 320.705 J.
Careful: While the elevator accelerates, the force on it must be greater than its weight.

Consider: Work = change in energy (PE + KE)
 
Aubiefan said:
...I know that power is Work/time, which is F(delta x)/(delta t). I used F=mg to find a force of 994.18 N, and plugged it into work = F(delta X) to get 320.705 J...

How did you use F = mg to find the force? Which force is it? Remember, Newton's law of motion states that the resultant of all forces equals the product of mass and acceleration. You got the acceleration and displacement right. But which forces are acting on the elevator? Make a sketch.

http://physics.bu.edu/~duffy/semester1/c05_elevator.html"
 
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The work done must be equal to the increase of energy. In this case you have two energies involved:
Kinectic energy due to the acceleration of the mass by 0.55m/s^2.
Potential energy, since the elevator is going up.
 

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