Solving Problems with Physics: What Branches Are Needed?

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The discussion revolves around identifying the branches of physics and mathematics necessary to solve a specific problem, with a focus on thermodynamics, statistical physics, and potentially quantum mechanics. Participants explore the relevance of different physics concepts and their applicability based on the problem's context.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant queries the specific physics and math knowledge required to address a problem, suggesting classical physics and thermodynamics might be necessary.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the required knowledge depends on the problem, mentioning thermodynamics and statistical physics as likely relevant, and noting the importance of equilibrium versus non-equilibrium considerations.
  • A similar viewpoint is reiterated, highlighting the second law of thermodynamics and its relationship with entropy as a point of contention.
  • One participant asserts that the second law fits with entropy, suggesting that a comprehensive education path is necessary to acquire the tools needed for such problems.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between the second law of thermodynamics and entropy, with some asserting compatibility while others question it. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific branches of physics required for the problem.

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There are unresolved assumptions regarding the nature of the problem being discussed, as well as the definitions of the branches of physics mentioned. The level of understanding required for different concepts is also not fully clarified.

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Whats the physics and maybe math knowledge I need to solve this problem ? Do I need classical physics , thermodynamics ? What else ? What's the physics branches and sub branches I need to know before I can solve this problem ?
 
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Everything you need is in the recollections of an elderly gentleman. Coincidentally he wrote them down just today.
 
It depends on the problem. Most probably thermodynamics or statistical physics (I would classify classical thermodynamics as a subset of stat. phys.). Maybe quantum mechanics, depending on the system.

The level of the question is also important. Basic thermo or stat. phys. deal mostly with equilibrium. In some cases, non-equilibrium thermo or stat. phys. is necessary.
 
DrClaude said:
It depends on the problem. Most probably thermodynamics or statistical physics (I would classify classical thermodynamics as a subset of stat. phys.). Maybe quantum mechanics, depending on the system.

The level of the question is also important. Basic thermo or stat. phys. deal mostly with equilibrium. In some cases, non-equilibrium thermo or stat. phys. is necessary.
The problem is that the second law of thermodynamics is the only law in physics that don't fit well with entropy . Search it , the problem is one and famous .
 
Krylov said:
Everything you need is in the recollections of an elderly gentleman. Coincidentally he wrote them down just today.
That's not my question . I am asking about the problem that the 2nd law is the only law that doesn't fit with entropy . Your answear was about how to calculate the entropy of a system
 
Ricky, the 2nd law certainly does fit with entropy.

What you need to do is to finish 11th grade, finish high school, finish college and finish grad school and then you will have started to have collected the tools you need to solve these kinds of problems.
 
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