Solving Quadratic Eqn for Symbolic Complex Eqn

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The discussion revolves around solving a complex quadratic equation with specific coefficients defined in terms of variables. The original poster seeks to analytically reduce the equation and is exploring the simplification of the discriminant.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the reduction of the discriminant term and the potential for factoring it into a specific polynomial form. There is an emphasis on identifying perfect squares within the expression.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on maintaining the unfactored form of the expression for analysis. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity of the problem, with indications that progress is being made towards understanding the polynomial structure.

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Participants note the presence of multiple terms and the challenge of recognizing patterns within the polynomial. There is a suggestion to focus on the structure of the expression rather than rushing to factor it.

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Homework Statement



Hey guys, I know there are people on here that can help me figure this out...

I have a complex quadratic. The coefficients of the quadratic are a=(1-x) b=x*(u+P/(u*r)) and c=-(u^2 + x*P/r). Using -b/2a +/- sqrt(b^2-4*a*c)/2a

I'm trying to analytically reduce this quad eqn as far as I can

I know this should reduce to 1/(x-1)*u + x*P/(r*u)

The Attempt at a Solution



As far as I could take it was trying to reduce the term in the sqrt => b^2-4*a*c

u^2*(x-2)^2 + (P/(u*r))^2*(x)^2 + P/r*(-4x^2 + 4x)

I feel like I should be able to factor this into something like

(u+p/(u*r))^2 * (something)^2 so I can take the sqrt but I can't figure this out. Thanks in advance for the help.

~ Wesley
 
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WesleyJA81 said:

The Attempt at a Solution



As far as I could take it was trying to reduce the term in the sqrt => b^2-4*a*c

u^2*(x-2)^2 + (P/(u*r))^2*(x)^2 + P/r*(-4x^2 + 4x)
Don't write this. Leave it in the "unfactored" form for a moment. There should be 6 terms, three of which are perfect squares. It will be in the form of
[itex]a^2 + b^2 + c^2 + 2ab + 2bc + 2ac = (a + b + c)^2[/itex]

See if you can get the polynomial in the above form.


(Mods: I hope that this isn't too much of help. If so, please delete.)
 
eumyang, thanks for the tip. Let me take a look. The problem I'm working on is bigger than what I've posted. This is just the point that has stumped me. Thanks again!
 
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eumyang said:
Don't write this. Leave it in the "unfactored" form for a moment. There should be 6 terms, three of which are perfect squares. It will be in the form of
[itex]a^2 + b^2 + c^2 + 2ab + 2bc + 2ac = (a + b + c)^2[/itex]

See if you can get the polynomial in the above form.


(Mods: I hope that this isn't too much of help. If so, please delete.)


It ended up being of the form

[itex]a^2 + b^2 + c^2 - 2ab + 2bc - 2ac = (-a + b + c)^2[/itex]

I'm embarrassed at the amount of time I spent trying to figure that out. Thanks again
 

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