Solving Quadratic Equation with Solutions x1 and x2: How to Calculate x1-3+x2-3?

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The discussion revolves around solving a quadratic equation of the form a(3x² + 2x + 1) = 4x - 6x² - 4, specifically focusing on calculating the expression x1⁻³ + x2⁻³ without directly solving for the roots x1 and x2. The original poster mentions that the expected result is -7/2.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the implications of setting a = 0 and attempt to manipulate the equation to find relationships between x1 and x2. There are discussions about using the relationships x1 + x2 = -b/a and x1 * x2 = c/a to derive further expressions. Some participants question the correctness of their algebraic manipulations and seek clarification on notation.

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Several participants have engaged in back-and-forth dialogue, providing guidance on how to express the relationships between x1 and x2. There is an ongoing exploration of algebraic expressions, with some participants confirming their calculations and others seeking help with notation and clarity. The discussion appears to be productive, with some participants expressing satisfaction upon reaching the expected result.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraint of not solving the equation directly, which leads to a focus on algebraic manipulation and the exploration of properties of the roots. There is a mention of confusion regarding notation and the use of LaTeX for clarity in mathematical expressions.

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1.given the equation a(3x2+2x+1)=4x-6x2-4 with the solutions x1 and x2
a) let a=0 without solving the equation calculate x1-3+x2-3

the correct answer is supposed to be -7/2


Homework Equations


x1+x2=-b/a
x1*x2=c/a




The Attempt at a Solution


The first thing I was that I put in "a" so,
0*(3x2+2x+1)=4x-6x2-4
0=4x-6x2-4...... here I multiplied the whole equation by -1
0=6x2-4x+4......here i divided the equation by 6
0=x2-4/6x+46
then I used the equation
1/x13+1/x23=(1/x1+1/x2)3 -3/x12x2 -3/x22x1
This is where I have no idea how to continue.I'm not even sure that what I have written is correct .If someone could help me solve this,I would really appreciate it. Thanks for reading .
 
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Matejxx1 said:
1.given the equation a(3x2+2x+1)=4x-6x2-4 with the solutions x1 and x2
a) let a=0 without solving the equation calculate x1-3+x2-3

the correct answer is supposed to be -7/2


Homework Equations


x1+x2=-b/a
x1*x2=c/a




The Attempt at a Solution


The first thing I was that I put in "a" so,
0*(3x2+2x+1)=4x-6x2-4
0=4x-6x2-4...... here I multiplied the whole equation by -1
0=6x2-4x+4......here i divided the equation by 6
0=x2-4/6x+4/6
then I used the equation
1/x13+1/x23=(1/x1+1/x2)3 -3/x12x2 -3/x22x1
This is where I have no idea how to continue.I'm not even sure that what I have written is correct .If someone could help me solve this,I would really appreciate it. Thanks for reading .

Try to bring in x1+x2 and x1x2.
For example, 1/x_1+1/x_2=\frac{x_1+x_2}{x_1 x_2}

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thank you for your reply. I did as you said and I got:
((x1+x2)/x1x2)3-3x1/x12x22 -3x2/x22x12. then I added the minuses together:
((x1+x2)/x1x2)3-3x1+3x2/(x1x2)2
Did I do this part correct?
May I also ask, what command did you use to write (x1+x2)/x1x2 because your way looks much easier to understand
 
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Matejxx1 said:
thank you for your reply. I did as you said and I got:
(x1+x2/x1x2)3-3x1/x12x22 -3x2/x22x12. then I added the minuses together:
(x1+x2/x1x2)3-3x1+3x2/(x1x2)2
Did I do this part correct?
May I also ask, what command did you use to write x1+x2/x1x2 because your way looks much easier to understand

He did not write ##x_1+x_2/x_1x_2##; you did that. In fact, you wrote
x_1 + \frac{x_2}{x_1 x_2}
If you mean
\frac{x_1 + x_2}{x_1 x_2}
then either use LaTeX or else use parentheses, like this: (x1+x2)/x1x2.
 
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Ray Vickson said:
He did not write ##x_1+x_2/x_1x_2##; you did that. In fact, you wrote
x_1 + \frac{x_2}{x_1 x_2}
If you mean
\frac{x_1 + x_2}{x_1 x_2}
then either use LaTeX or else use parentheses, like this: (x1+x2)/x1x2.
Thank you I didn't notice that and I fixed it right away
 
Now I added in the numbers
x1+x2=4/6
x1*x2=4/6
(((4/6)/4/6))-((3*4/6)/(4/6)2 =
1-(2)/0,444=
1-4,5=-3,5=-7/2
Thank you very much for your help I got the right answer
 

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