Solving Scalar Product: Figure Drawing for (AC - AB) * AB = 0

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving vector mathematics, specifically the scalar product of vectors. The original poster seeks assistance in drawing a figure that satisfies the equation (AC - AB) * AB = 0, indicating a relationship between the vectors AC and AB.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the implications of the scalar product being zero, suggesting that the vectors must be perpendicular. There is an exploration of how to represent the vectors graphically and the conditions under which the scalar product holds true.

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Some participants have provided insights into the geometric interpretation of the problem, suggesting that the figure could represent a right triangle. Others have raised questions about how to derive vectors from given points and the nature of vector representation.

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There are indications of missing foundational knowledge due to missed classes, and participants are attempting to clarify vector notation and properties. The discussion reflects a mix of conceptual understanding and practical application challenges.

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Hello!

I am preparing for an exam, I didn't really had much time for, and it would be nice of you if you could help me!

Homework Statement


Draw a figure, so that the following is true: (AC - AB) * AB = 0

2. The attempt at a solution
Since I had to miss some classes, I don't really have an idea on how to start.
I don't know if AC*AB=AB² is the right way to go

Thanks in advance
 
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Since the dot product is zero, the vectors are at 90° angle with each other. (considering non-zero vectors). Let us draw a vector AB. Now draw AC vector such that AC's projection on AB is equal and opposite to AB. Meaning, if you consider any angle θ between AB and AC, then |AC|cosθ=|AB|. Then the resultant of AC-AB will be |AC|sinθ, perpendicular to AB, thus their dot product is zero.
 
AGNuke said:
Since the dot product is zero, the vectors are at 90° angle with each other. (considering non-zero vectors). Let us draw a vector AB. Now draw AC vector such that AC's projection on AB is equal and opposite to AB. Meaning, if you consider any angle θ between AB and AC, then |AC|cosθ=|AB|. Then the resultant of AC-AB will be |AC|sinθ, perpendicular to AB, thus their dot product is zero.
Thanks a lot for your input, but could you please expand this a little more, I don't quite understand
 
H4NS said:
Hello!

I am preparing for an exam, I didn't really had much time for, and it would be nice of you if you could help me!

Homework Statement


Draw a figure, so that the following is true: (AC - AB) * AB = 0

2. The attempt at a solution
Since I had to miss some classes, I don't really have an idea on how to start.
I don't know if AC*AB=AB² is the right way to go

Thanks in advance
I assume that you need the scalar product, \displaystyle (\vec{\text{AC}}-\vec{\text{AB}})\cdot\vec{\text{AB}}\ .

That's the scalar product of two vectors, \displaystyle \vec{\text{AC}}-\vec{\text{AB}} and \displaystyle \vec{\text{AB}}\ .

For this product to be zero, either the two vectors must be perpendicular to each other, as AGNuke pointed out, or else the magnitude of one of them must be zero.
 
SammyS said:
I assume that you need the scalar product, \displaystyle (\vec{\text{AC}}-\vec{\text{AB}})\cdot\vec{\text{AB}}\ .

That's the scalar product of two vectors, \displaystyle \vec{\text{AC}}-\vec{\text{AB}} and \displaystyle \vec{\text{AB}}\ .

For this product to be zero, either the two vectors must be perpendicular to each other, as AGNuke pointed out, or else the magnitude of one of them must be zero.

OK, I assume the figure might be a 90° triangle, with AB and AC being the cathetes.

Let's suppose A: (1|1), B: (2|1) and C: (1|3), my question is, how do I get a vector out of this data?
 
H4NS said:
OK, I assume the figure might be a 90° triangle, with AB and AC being the cathetes.

Let's suppose A: (1|1), B: (2|1) and C: (1|3), my question is, how do I get a vector out of this data?

In my experience, usually the line segments joining sides are the vectors.
 
A vector is the length of the side, with a directional arrow. Let's see, You may understand North-South-East-West Direction and displacement vector. Now I will explain how to get your AC-AB vector.

Suppose you rose in the morning for a morning walk. You know the sun is in the east, so you walked 10 steps towards the east. That is your vector AB, 10 steps in East.

Now if you were to walk 10 steps in west instead of east, you inverted your vector, your new vector is -AB, 10 steps in west OR -10 steps in East.

Now you walk 10√2 steps (Mathematically?) in North-East direction, where you find yourself? You actually find yourself 10 steps North of your initial position. That was you AC vector, 10√2 steps in North-East.

Now adding the two vectors, AC and -AB, you get AC-AB = 10 steps in North, Perpendicular to AB vector. So their Dot Product is zero.

Also, you must know that AC vector can be broken into a sum of perpendicular vector. One vector defines its motion in East and other in North, and by chance, North and East directions are perpendicular. Since North-East direction makes 45° angle with East, AC=10√2×cos45° East + 10√2×sin45° North, which is equal to AC=10 steps East + 10 steps North.

If you want to make your life easier, try learning vector notation, unit vectors, projection.
 

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