Solving Schrödinger's equation for a hydrogen atom with Euler's method

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This discussion focuses on solving Schrödinger's equation for a hydrogen atom using Euler's method, specifically for spherically symmetric eigenstates. Participants emphasize the necessity of knowing energy eigenvalues beforehand or employing the shooting method to find them through trial and error. The radial part of the wave function is manipulated into a second-order differential equation, requiring initial conditions to apply Euler's method effectively. Key insights include the need for proper normalization of the wave function and the treatment of derivatives as new functions for numerical integration.

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  • Understanding of Schrödinger's equation and its application to quantum mechanics
  • Familiarity with Euler's method for numerical solutions of differential equations
  • Knowledge of second-order ordinary differential equations (ODEs)
  • Basic concepts of quantum mechanics, particularly energy eigenvalues and wave functions
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Hi, first-time poster here

I'm a student at HS-level in DK, who has decided to write my annual large scale assignment on Schrödinger's equation. My teacher has only given us a brief introduction to the equation and has tasked us to solve it numerically with Euler's method for the hydrogen atom. He rewrote the equation on to a form I simply cannot seem to find online or anywhere else. My knowledge of using Euler's method for second-order ODEs is very sparse too. I have attached the equation. If someone can please help me understand, how I must use Euler's method on this specific form, I would be very thankful.

Thank you
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You can use Euler's method only for spherically symmetric eigenstates of the H atom, and you also need to either know the energy eigenvalues beforehand or find the correct energy by trial and error (which is called "shooting method" and can utilize Euler's method or some other finite difference scheme). The correct eigenvalues make the wavefunction approach zero when ##r\rightarrow\infty##, as should be for physically possible states.
 
Hello @Tuca ,
:welcome: !​

I didn't reply to your post, since I don't have a ready answer. What I see in the picture seems to be the equation for the radial part of the wave function, suitably manipulated and simplified. I suppose there is no harm in peeking forward to the solutions, e.g. here . Picture e.g. https://users.aber.ac.uk/ruw/teach/327/hydrogen.php

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You have a second order differential equation, so you need initial conditions.

Suppose you have ##R(0)## and ##S(0)## (and, for starters, ##n=1##) given, then

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gives you ##S'(0)## which, in combination with ##R'= S## allows you to take an Euler step.

I suppose you can start with ##R(0) = A = 1## and figure out a better value afterwards from the normalization requirement ##\int \text {probability} = 1##.

Now the weakness in my reply and the reason (*) it comes so late: I still don't know how to deal with ##S(0)## or some equivalent.

Maybe you or someone else has an idea ?

(*) :smile: Actually: one of the reasons. Another being that I tried to reproduce your radial equation from the separated Schrödinger equation -- and ended up with a mess.
Tuca said:
My knowledge of using Euler's method for second-order ODEs is very sparse too
Not much knowledge needed to upgrade from order 1 to two: Given ##f(0)## and ##f'(0)## you treat the latter as a 'new' function ##g##: ##g(x) = f'(x)## and then step both ##f## and ##g## :
##f_{n+1} = f_{n} + g_n \Delta x##​
##g_{n+1} = g_{n} + g'_n \Delta x##​
where g'_n follows from the second order equation.​

Hope this helps at least a little bit; keep us posted !

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